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  1. #11
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    REDace0's Avatar
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    Robert Redensa
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    Good review. Thanks for posting! I don't understand the 65% score for sound at all, but I agree with the complaint regarding drop rates. I think the change to the reward system in the Garuda fight is a significant improvement, but getting Darklight gear or other Primal weapons is still a lottery.

    I do think there's a reason for this though. They want to keep these items special and rare, but if they demand too much skill or precision, the players come up against the limitations of the current system. Hopefully we'll see more demanding content in 2.0 when this is no longer a concern.
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  2. #12
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    Andrien Bellcross
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    I agree with every point he made, and mostly with this.

    "The instanced dungeons are also offensive. These raids reward groups with more treasure chests based on speed of completion. Some dungeons will award additional treasure based on certain combat or task conditions as well. In theory this sounds relatively harmless, but it has made the community completely ostracize characters in melee jobs who want to run these raids. Those brave souls who try to go against this practice find themselves being completely unable to finish the content successfully. To add fuel to the fire, the best dungeon equipment has a ridiculously low drop rate even with a perfect 5 chest speed run. This leads to groups zipping through content over and over with zero group flexibility until they burn out. Players don't have a chance to really experience and enjoy the dungeons, because they're too busy running past enemies to meet the speed run requirement. In its current state, the primal fights and dungeon raids are unforgiving rat races that reward mostly luck, not hard work. Not a great way to attract new players who are accustomed to being rewarded for their efforts."
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  3. #13
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    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
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    Captain Lalafist
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    78%? The servers and engine alone drag the game down to <60%. The sad truth is, no matter what they do to the current game it will still be crap until the engine and server infrastructure are replaced.
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  4. #14
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    78%? The servers and engine alone drag the game down to <60%. The sad truth is, no matter what they do to the current game it will still be crap until the engine and server infrastructure are replaced.
    All things considered the review is a very accurate view of the current state of the game, yes server lag wasn't metioned, but if you hate the game (only time you would call a game "crap" why are you playing?)
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  5. #15
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    The guy who reviewed the game indeed played a lot, even has a few 50s. So, yep, is not someone who played a few hours and made a "review"

    http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=8556.60
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  6. #16
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I agree with every point he made, and mostly with this.

    "The instanced dungeons are also offensive. These raids reward groups with more treasure chests based on speed of completion. Some dungeons will award additional treasure based on certain combat or task conditions as well. In theory this sounds relatively harmless, but it has made the community completely ostracize characters in melee jobs who want to run these raids. Those brave souls who try to go against this practice find themselves being completely unable to finish the content successfully. To add fuel to the fire, the best dungeon equipment has a ridiculously low drop rate even with a perfect 5 chest speed run. This leads to groups zipping through content over and over with zero group flexibility until they burn out. Players don't have a chance to really experience and enjoy the dungeons, because they're too busy running past enemies to meet the speed run requirement. In its current state, the primal fights and dungeon raids are unforgiving rat races that reward mostly luck, not hard work. Not a great way to attract new players who are accustomed to being rewarded for their efforts."
    100% agreed, the bold text, I could have not worded that better.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    The guy who reviewed the game indeed played a lot, even has a few 50s. So, yep, is not someone who played a few hours and made a "review"

    http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=8556.60
    Infact all DoW lvl 50, heres his lodestone page.

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...cicuid=1294507

    Kudos to the reviewer for not hiding his character name
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    All things considered the review is a very accurate view of the current state of the game, yes server lag wasn't metioned, but if you hate the game (only time you would call a game "crap" why are you playing?)
    All things considered the servers and engine suck, which make or break any game. Nothing works well enough if the foundation doesn't.

    I don't hate the game and it is still crap. Maybe it is just crap regardless of my emotional connection to it. Oh the wonders of the world.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    All things considered the servers and engine suck, which make or break any game. Nothing works well enough if the foundation doesn't.

    I don't hate the game and it is still crap. Maybe it is just crap regardless of my emotional connection to it. Oh the wonders of the world.
    Then you don't feel the game is crap, because thats an extreme way of saying you dislike it, lets put it into another context, do you say "I feel like crap" if you are fine? do you say food "is crap" when its the best food you have had?
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Then you don't feel the game is crap, because thats an extreme way of saying you dislike it, lets put it into another context, do you say "I feel like crap" if you are fine? do you say food "is crap" when its the best food you have had?
    I say the food is crap when it looks and smells good but is made from rotten ingredients that spoil the whole thing.

    That doesn't mean I hate it. It means I think it's bad food (which it is, unless you can overlook the fact it's rotten to the core).
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