So a Dark Knight walks into a bar...

[Duelle]

Between Dragoon just straight raiding Dark Knight's panty drawer and taking its Blood for Blood and Warrior calling dibs on Blood Bath I wonder how they will make it work. If and when they implement it? It seems like a lot of Drk's abilities and likeness has already been drawn and distributed to existing jobs.

Main Class: GLA
Weapon: Great Sword (GS has innate bonuses to damage when used in WS, not to mention it would help stuff like Riot Blade and Rage of Halone actually find use in combat)
Sub-classes: Lancer, Marauder
Notes: World First! Job traits that enhance the abilities from support classes in ways not available when playing as GLA with a great sword.

There.

[Zyph]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FZCDmdlK0

Aw yeah that was my theme song back in the day.

[Alerith]

I feel like you made this thread for me Ale...

I was hoping you'd post on the first page Rau. <3

[Daku_Naito]

Yeah, DRK could spawn from the MRD class like WAR does and get the ability. That would make sense actually.

[Alerith]

On a serious note for this thread:

There is nothing that says DRK must use a Greatsword or Scythe. I would be completely happy with, and even compelled to level, DRK if it used a sword and shield and came off the Gladiator class.

You could make use of just about all it's combos (except the enmity one. You probably wouldn't want that) and the abilities you would get from the DRK job would augment your physical damage prowess.

Souleater -Kinda like Blood for Blood but as a long duration effect. When it's on, all your attacks, including WS's, are enhanced at the expense of a percentage of HP.

Darkness - A ranged, dark elemental attack, perhaps a shockwave from your sword. Inflicts Blind.

Syphon Soul - Steals HP from a selected target. Inflicts Bleeding. Stacks with Bleeding from Goring Blade.

Dance Macabre - Deliver a flurry of five devastating blows. Combo action: Rage of Halone. Combo Effect: Enhances damage.

Glyph of Shadow (15 minute ability) - Plunge your sword into the ground, dealing darkness damage to all enemies in range and inflicting random status effects onto them.

[Delsus]

Yeah, DRK could spawn from the MRD class like WAR does and get the ability. That would make sense actually.

They would likely spawn from GLA, because DRK and PLD are complete oposites, while PLD is mainly defence and helping the other party members, DRK is more about doing as much damage as possible whatever it costs, also if you look back in FF lore (paticularly FFIV) PLD is a holy knight and DRK is well a Dark knight, if you take away thier respective holy and dark abilities they would be identical, which is why DRK should come from GLA, (I haven't done the PLD story) perhaps they take a different route to PLD, if they were released at the same time, I would say why not have a choice to follow the holy side or the dark side, choose to defend people or choose to be a loner, fighting for noone in the first PLD quest, choose the light you become PLD, choose the dark you become DRK, but that wouldn't really work now.

Also Alerith, Souleater and Darkness are pretty much the same ability, you never see them both in the same game (feel free to prove me wrong) also your abilities (to me anyway) don't seem to show the DRKs idea of dealing as much damage as possible whatever the cost, need something that will inflict a debuff on the DRK to raise attack, or more "sacrifice half your remaining HP to deal damage" kind of thing.

[Zyph]

DRK and PLD are complete oposites

if you take away thier respective holy and dark abilities they would be identical

oposites

identical

I'm not sure you're thinking things through here.

Also, DRK is about pure raw damage, something you do not get from a sword and shield.

[Delsus]

I'm not sure you're thinking things through here.

Also, DRK is about pure raw damage, something you do not get from a sword and shield.

Look at FFIV, Cecil can use an ability called "Darkness" as a DRK, as a PLD he can use White magic (holy), in order for Cecil to become a PLD he has to confront himself to remove all his darkness and he becomes a PLD (Game is 20 years old, not really a spoiler after that long)

Also, I post again the profile of DRK from FF wiki

The Dark Knight is characterized by wearing tight, sometimes enclosed black armor and wielding a sword powered by dark energy. Their physical stats, with exception of Defense, are usually high, but their other stats depend on the game they appear in. The typical Dark Knight ability is Souleater, also known as Darkness, which allows them to sacrifice their HP to perform stronger attacks. However, Souleater is not exclusive to the Dark Knight class. The Dark Knight is opposed by the Paladin, holy knights who protect allies and wield sacred powers. Unlike many classes, Dark Knights bear a signature weapon, the Deathbringer, which has a chance to kill certain enemies in a single blow.

Bolded the important things.

And so you don't have to look through a dictionary, Opposed means somethings opposite.

And if you look through the games you will see that DRKs use swords alot more than scythes (FFXI only) and great swords, also Deathbringer is a one handed sword. Swords can be very powerful weapons, if you have alot of strength and attack power, which DRK would have innately.

Also lets not forget common fiction themes, everyone had light and darkness inside them, in FFXIV this could be shown as GLA is nutral, they act on both light and darkness, the fight when they need to, however if they become a PLD they act on the light side, using white magic and high defence to protect allies, but if they become DRK they let darkness take over, using the power of darkness and black magic (they would have all GLA actions and THM and MRD DoW/M only actions) to destroy enemies, which would tie into Final Fantasy lore, and the profile of a Dark Knight.

[Daku_Naito]

Look at FFIV, Cecil can use an ability called "Darkness" as a DRK, as a PLD he can use White magic (holy), in order for Cecil to become a PLD he has to confront himself to remove all his darkness and he becomes a PLD (Game is 20 years old, not really a spoiler after that long)

Also, I post again the profile of DRK from FF wiki



Bolded the important things.

And so you don't have to look through a dictionary, Opposed means somethings opposite.

And if you look through the games you will see that DRKs use swords alot more than scythes (FFXI only) and great swords, also Deathbringer is a one handed sword. Swords can be very powerful weapons, if you have alot of strength and attack power, which DRK would have innately.

Also lets not forget common fiction themes, everyone had light and darkness inside them, in FFXIV this could be shown as GLA is nutral, they act on both light and darkness, the fight when they need to, however if they become a PLD they act on the light side, using white magic and high defence to protect allies, but if they become DRK they let darkness take over, using the power of darkness and black magic (they would have all GLA actions and THM and MRD DoW/M only actions) to destroy enemies, which would tie into Final Fantasy lore, and the profile of a Dark Knight.

I see less sense in making DRK come from a tank class then DRK come from a straight DD class that already has a move close to DRKs old moves.

[Elexia]

I see less sense in making DRK come from a tank class then DRK come from a straight DD class that already has a move close to DRKs old moves.

Funny enough I was able to tank things with my DRK in XI once they added Dread Spikes and Absorb TP, so it does make sense given how people are anal about having to make a tough decision in an MMO (PLD or DRK, not both) so it coming off of GLA will please most of those people.