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    Quote Originally Posted by TerahValeth View Post
    but please extend it some other way (ie: 1-3 day lockouts, or whatever) that doesn't just burn everyone out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phen View Post
    Lockouts aren't the answer there has to be something else. At least not the 24+ ones. Enough to make it unfeasible to spam but short enough to prevent "id like to play this game and do that dungeon I like but I actually cant for 36 more hours." Also that obviously applies to wins only or otherwise people will never take any chances or experiment.
    "Some other way, or whatever." I'm being purposely vague. It is not helpful to the game developers for us to tell them HOW to fix things in the game, only THAT it needs fixing. So I'm not telling them what solution to use, they are the game developers, we are the consumers. It is our job to enjoy the game; their's to ensure we have the greatest chance to do so.
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    Last edited by TerahValeth; 05-15-2012 at 08:59 AM. Reason: slight rewording, to make sure my meaning wasn't lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerahValeth View Post
    "Some other way, or whatever." It is not helpful to the game developers for us to tell them HOW to fix things in the game, only THAT it needs fixing. So I'm not telling them what solution to use, they are the game developers, we are the consumers. It is our job to enjoy the game; their's to ensure we do.
    Well they can only ensure enjoyment to a degree, since people have different needs when it comes to enjoyment. For instance, there are those that love spamming content, and there are those that absolutely hate it. SE is taking steps to appeal to both crowds of pplz so I think everything will be fine. Right now the anti-spammers are more vocal because they spammed something when no one forced them to spam it. Just because content is spammable doesn't mean it has to be spammed. At some point players need to take personal responsibility for their enjoyment of the game. Too many players lack self-control and common sense in such gross amounts that they blame the developers for their current frustrations/burn out/etc. The game does a rather good job of giving you plenty of options and avenues in regards to gear, due to all of the side-grades, so there's no living reason to spam anything when you don't want to....outside of personal ones. And let me tell, devs can't fix personal problems. The reason for burnout has nothing to do with devs, it has everything to do with players. Devs can't fix that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    The game does a rather good job of giving you plenty of options and avenues in regards to gear, due to all of the side-grades, so there's no living reason to spam anything when you don't want to....
    Plenty of options that ALL focus on luck (so no variety there). The burnout doesn't necessarily come from hitting Vale hours a day, it's when you vary your activities and realize they are all the same. It's the same luck>skill everywhere I look. There are really no options for those that don't want spamable content. I'm glad you are happy w/ the way the game is, but where are the "options" for the rest of us?

    Also, idk why you chimed in, but my reply was to clarify that I wasn't telling SE HOW to fix things, it had nothing to do w/ the subject of your response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerahValeth View Post
    Plenty of options that ALL focus on luck (so no variety there). The burnout doesn't necessarily come from hitting Vale hours a day, it's when you vary your activities and realize they are all the same. It's the same luck>skill everywhere I look. There are really no options for those that don't want spamable content. I'm glad you are happy w/ the way the game is, but where are the "options" for the rest of us?

    Also, idk why you chimed in, but my reply was to clarify that I wasn't telling SE HOW to fix things, it had nothing to do w/ the subject of your response.

    I chimed in because I felt like chiming in, I find it fun. You guys were having a discussion, it looked like fun, so here I am. And there are options actually, I can think of 2 that have absolutely nothing to do with luck at all: GC gear and Garuda weapons. Oh yeah there's also the new class gear-sets as well. Course the latter is only really awesome if you double meld it all, so there is a wee luck involved. Even if you just single meld it though, its still a viable piece of gear. Not the best, but still viable. That aside though, GC gear and Garuda weapons are some of the best out there with sanctions/set bonuses. Are there lots of options? No. But I'm sure you understand these sorts of things take time. They are slowly adding in gear/content variety, so the best remedy is a bit of patience.

    Btw if you want my honest opinion, the whole thing is blown WAY out of proportion. Skill > all in this game at the end of the day, barring any significant discrepancies in gear. For now all you can do is work with whatever you can get that doesn't cause you pain and suffering, all the while waiting for better options.
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