So.... why the Races from FFXI?

[Cendres]

................. Oh dear.

First off we all know the races are carbon copies of what we had in XI. Denial isn't why people are correcting you, they are doing so because they've made a divide between XI's lore and XIV's and expect you to do so as well because that is what is intended.

The original dev team obviously had letting go issues, they wanted a brand new world that still felt 'familiar' to players of XI so they transferred the old races with small changes and new names and lore to give things a new spin. Not really sure why they thought this would be preferable to a brand new fresh world with brand new races ( I would have loved to see that... ) but that's not what they decided to do.

You can argue until you are blue in the face that they are the same races essentially, but you have to understand that even though intellectually people can see that, most of us are huge lore buffs and like to immersed in the current story and lore and so we prefer to use the new names so many are still going to correct you if you insist on calling Miqo'tes Mithras.

Also perhaps your personal problem is you have issues too with letting go of what was and instead of being in a familiar place with a familiar character you are constantly reminded of what you had and that what you have now is different.

It's time to make that divide, or petition for brand new races. There's a thread somewhere...

[Elexia]

................. Oh dear.

First off we all know the races are carbon copies of what we had in XI. Denial isn't why people are correcting you, they are doing so because they've made a divide between XI's lore and XIV's and expect you to do so as well because that is what is intended.

The original dev team obviously had letting go issues..

You say no one has denial issues yet you can say this bull? The races are the same for the people WHO WERE MOVING OVER FROM FFXI AND WANTED TO RECREATE THEIR XI CHARACTER. It's as simple as this, this is the SECOND FINAL FANTASY MMO just like every damn generic MMO out there has an Orc, Troll/Midget, Elf and Human race of some kind...no different. They look similar, but they have completely different backstories, but if you play both games, you can still call them galka/hume/mithra etc because that's the name most people used for years.

Yet people would be perfectly ok with them using Ivalice races...XIV players can be such hypocrites about their hate.

MEH. All I want is my viera and lamia races.

Leave this to the hentai game where she belongs :|

[Dhalmel]

You say no one has denial issues yet you can say this bull? The races are the same for the people WHO WERE MOVING OVER FROM FFXI AND WANTED TO RECREATE THEIR XI CHARACTER. It's as simple as this, this is the SECOND FINAL FANTASY MMO just like every damn generic MMO out there has an Orc, Troll/Midget, Elf and Human race of some kind...no different. They look similar, but they have completely different backstories, but if you play both games, you can still call them galka/hume/mithra etc because that's the name most people used for years.

Yet people would be perfectly ok with them using Ivalice races...XIV players can be such hypocrites about their hate.



Leave this to the hentai game where she belongs :|

fffffffffffine but lamias looked nice in XI

[Elexia]

fffffffffffine but lamias looked nice in XI

I agree. If that design was in any other kind of game sure, but my mind has been tainted.

[Duelle]

First off we all know the races are carbon copies of what we had in XI. Denial isn't why people are correcting you, they are doing so because they've made a divide between XI's lore and XIV's and expect you to do so as well because that is what is intended.

This is pretty much all that needs to be said as far as the races go. Not to mention on the technical/animation side having races with similar body structure makes animating stuff much easier.

The original dev team obviously had letting go issues, they wanted a brand new world that still felt 'familiar' to players of XI so they transferred the old races with small changes and new names and lore to give things a new spin. Not really sure why they thought this would be preferable to a brand new fresh world with brand new races ( I would have loved to see that... ) but that's not what they decided to do.

It was a business decision. They banked on XI's players moving from XI to XIV. That didn't pan out very well for numerous reasons. The reverse of what Sony wanted to do with EQII (attract new players but got a good chunk of the people who played EQ instead).

most mmos have similar races to other games....so why is it any different here

Wow, TheVedis and I actually agree on something? *pinches self*

That looks an awful lot like a Lineage 2 Dark Elf female.

You're saying that as if it were a bad thing...

[Mireille]

The original dev team obviously had letting go issues, they wanted a brand new world that still felt 'familiar' to players of XI so they transferred the old races with small changes and new names and lore to give things a new spin. Not really sure why they thought this would be preferable to a brand new fresh world with brand new races ( I would have loved to see that... ) but that's not what they decided to do.

I'd point out that any and every FF MMO will consistently contain some variation of Hume/Hyur. I'm not really sure why bringing in other iconic races like Mithra/Miqo'te, or Tarutaru/Lalafel is really an issue. Those options were really popular in XI. Galka weren't so popular hence the leaner tailess Roegadyn in XIV. (I vote to give the tails back.)

This trend isn't really any different than D&D or other pen and paper RPG that all contain some variation on the done to death classic Tolkein races. They may shorten the elves and make the hobbits into kleptomaniacs, but they all stem from the same fantasy origin.

From what Yoshida has implied about content based in worlds from other FF titles it sounds like we may see Viera or Ronso at some point. We'll have rabbits for the cats to chase and dogs to chase after the cats, or were Ronso lion people? Ronso at least are quite iconic, but the Viera are sort of just another sex-bomb to go with the Miqo'te. In 2.0 we will have some new options that weren't in XI with more to come in future expansions. Why is this an issue?