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    Azurymber's Avatar
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    Azury Ariella
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaaru View Post
    1. The development team really didn't consider it an exploit. Yoshi actually stated that it wasn't easy to do the BLM burn and not just anyone could do it. Also it was Golden Week and taking down the fight would not have been fair to those who were capable of beating it without BLM burn
    Just like yoshi-p and the dev team didn't see a problem with people 1-shotting coblyns to level to 50 for months.
    And they don't see a problem with people powerleveling even if 6 people are afk.

    Thats the point i was making with this post
    This game supports people who just want to spam or do what in any other game would be considered an exploit, and punishes those who want to use skill.
    And then anytime someone points out the "exploits" people on the forum cry about how its fair.
    I remember all the "They intended you to 1-shot coblyn" posts.

    Why even have levelling or raids or endgame content? If you want everything handed to you, they might as well just let you godmode, pick your equipment, and choose your level and stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Just like yoshi-p and the dev team didn't see a problem with people 1-shotting coblyns to level to 50 for months.
    And they don't see a problem with people powerleveling even if 6 people are afk.

    Thats the point i was making with this post
    This game supports people who just want to spam or do what in any other game would be considered an exploit, and punishes those who want to use skill.
    And then anytime someone points out the "exploits" people on the forum cry about how its fair.
    I remember all the "They intended you to 1-shot coblyn" posts.

    Why even have levelling or raids or endgame content? If you want everything handed to you, they might as well just let you godmode, pick your equipment, and choose your level and stats.
    I can't believe you're still comparing coblyns to PLing. On average, you could only get 15-20k an hour with no competion.

    Do you realize that they actually buffed coblyn HP in one of the patches?

    If 1-shotting coblyns is an exploit, do you think that 1-shotting puks (after coblyn HP got buffed) is not an exploit just because you list some of those places in your guide?

    Comparing that to 300k exp/hr Natalan wolf camp parties (which only requires 2-3 active players) in 1.19 onwards is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kro View Post
    I can't believe you're still comparing coblyns to PLing. On average, you could only get 15-20k an hour with no competion.

    Do you realize that they actually buffed coblyn HP in one of the patches?

    If 1-shotting coblyns is an exploit, do you think that 1-shotting puks (after coblyn HP got buffed) is not an exploit just because you list some of those places in your guide?

    Comparing that to 300k exp/hr Natalan wolf camp parties (which only requires 2-3 active players) in 1.19 onwards is ridiculous.
    But the point is that you could get to 50 on coblyns without ever getting hit, faster than what it would have taken to get to 50 prior to that.

    Coblyns were the best way to 50 hands down, and you could pretty well kill them in a shot. That is an exploit as it means the best way to hit 50 was to essentially just click a mob. Nothing more. No strategy, no risk of death, just click click click.

    the sad part was that a bunch of people were trying to argue that it's what was intended and that it was a great system.

    The point again is that since yoshi-p took over, they keep messing up game mechanics to the point where different aspects of the game become exploitable. Instead of fixing the issue or banning exploiters they either pretend the problem doesn't exist, or say "hey we know ppl are doing this exploit and we are cool with it. eventually we will fix it but until then do whatever you want"

    This includes the use of bots as while SE says they are against ToS they have no force actively banning ppl for them.

    Which is why the thread is suggesting the game caters to exploiters and cheaters.
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