Treasure maps ... but Crucible format?

[Miradelle]

4 Player Crucible with the rewards of a treasure map? Clearing more rooms means more chances at the Yan mount, but more likely that you'll die and not get to the end, which should have its own big incentive--maybe a guaranteed chest? Or maybe it's just required to get the rewards you collected.

You get to also customize your own powers like in the Crucible for beastmaster, with items that have benefits as well as penalties, like the 1% doom helmet.

The theme also kinda fits treasure maps, since you're traversing a map.

Thoughts? I personally find regular treasure maps a huge snoozefest, especially the trash fights.

Also, since people want more difficult content without stepping into the extreme territory ... maybe allow people to set the level of the map? Like how with leves it asks if you wanna +4 your leves, you could +4 or +3 or +2 your map. It gets harder, but better chances at a reward?

The thing I've noticed is that there's different types of "casual" players, ones that think the normal content is too hard, and others who think the normal content is too easy. This way the people who find normal raids too easy and the people who find the wuk lamat duty too hard can both enjoy the content.

[VigilantofStendarr]

Congrats on making treasure maps somehow even worse.

[Bubert]

No thanks. Treasure maps are fine as it is.

[Stormfur]

Shhhhh. They'll put Ozma in charge of maps!

[Sacae]

4 Player Crucible with the rewards of a treasure map? Clearing more rooms means more chances at the Yan mount, but more likely that you'll die and not get to the end, which should have its own big incentive--maybe a guaranteed chest? Or maybe it's just required to get the rewards you collected.

You get to also customize your own powers like in the Crucible for beastmaster, with items that have benefits as well as penalties, like the 1% doom helmet.

The theme also kinda fits treasure maps, since you're traversing a map.

Thoughts? I personally find regular treasure maps a huge snoozefest, especially the trash fights.

Also, since people want more difficult content without stepping into the extreme territory ... maybe allow people to set the level of the map? Like how with leves it asks if you wanna +4 your leves, you could +4 or +3 or +2 your map. It gets harder, but better chances at a reward?

The thing I've noticed is that there's different types of "casual" players, ones that think the normal content is too hard, and others who think the normal content is too easy. This way the people who find normal raids too easy and the people who find the wuk lamat duty too hard can both enjoy the content.

I like it!

[PeekayTom]

Congrats on making treasure maps somehow even worse.

I'm curious why you, or others, might think this? Not asking in an antagonistic way, but just kind of want to hear your perspective.

[Starien]

My experience with Treasure Hunt is that on the surface, it's designed as a low-impact, casual activity for players to group together and have a good time. The fights are tuned extremely generously for full parties and it's up to the players to create challenge if they want to sweat a little -- for example, soloing as Blue Mage.

This is a branch of content I don't ever expect to see expanded. It's supposed to be a snoozefest. It plays like it's designed for 8 friends who want to get drunk and go gambling to beat up on some easy mobs and get loot to pop out. It's very successful at that.

I understand your point though -- content with the heart and concept of Crucible being made available to players who aren't playing a limited job, rewards expanded to something more current. It could be fun. The framework's there. Maybe we'll see something like that someday.

[Moqi]

Crucible/Ozma'd dungeon bosses is what Gauntlet of Power should be. If it's just plain regular dungeon bosses it's gonna be very boring and collect dust as soon as I'm done leveling.

[Kazelus]

My experience with Treasure Hunt is that on the surface, it's designed as a low-impact, casual activity for players to group together and have a good time. The fights are tuned extremely generously for full parties and it's up to the players to create challenge if they want to sweat a little -- for example, soloing as Blue Mage.

This is a branch of content I don't ever expect to see expanded. It's supposed to be a snoozefest. It plays like it's designed for 8 friends who want to get drunk and go gambling to beat up on some easy mobs and get loot to pop out. It's very successful at that.

I understand your point though -- content with the heart and concept of Crucible being made available to players who aren't playing a limited job, rewards expanded to something more current. It could be fun. The framework's there. Maybe we'll see something like that someday.

And that's exactly what crucible is with an available healer, a snooze fest. The main difficulty of the content, is the fact you can't heal during and between battles, the mechanics in themselves are not that hard.

[VigilantofStendarr]

I'm curious why you, or others, might think this? Not asking in an antagonistic way, but just kind of want to hear your perspective.

Because Crucible is already a disaster and I do not think the dev team is capable of making even mediocre rougelikes.