Integrity matters

[CCheshire]

They changed the rating in Japan to 17+. In Europe I believe it's PEGI 16.
Why is the American rating still 13+?
They should give it a mature rating. The Faerie server on Aether data center is basically used as tinder. I don't even need to mention what goes in Balmung.
The interests of players changed. We're not in the early 2000s anymore. MMOs aren't games for teens any longer. If what you said is true, that shows how the actual context of the game is.
Sometimes a genre ages with its players. I hope that, because of the Japanese rating, story and content becomes more serious.
This community is the biggest cesspool of degeneracy of the gaming world. And that's saying something, considering the kind of players that gacha games have. I would never play this game while someone else is looking lmao

So I'm 9/10 certain this is just rage-baiting, but all online interactions are not rated since it's impossible with an online game including non-MMO types. Also, game rating is tied to the MSQ content or side quests, not because you can see creepy folks who are sadly common in all online places like discord, reddit, and ofc our wonderful forums too. However, you can't remove the chat box from a MMO of all games except for like CC where it's removed and placed with phrases then even then you can't remove like emotes if someone is being rude in town except for block/ignore functions.

There's a way you can reduce it by removing all chat options like Nintendo has nuked them, and you need a friend code to add others along with higher parental controls, but it's more like the kid's parents need to be familiar with tech too.

"This community is the biggest cesspool of degeneracy of the gaming world. And that's saying something, considering the kind of players that gacha games have. I would never play this game while someone else is looking lmao"

What keeps you paying for DT and a ongoing sub tho? Also, you're not even from Balmung or Faerie, so what are you doing world visiting them if you hate them so much in the first place

[SkankyRoe]

Well... it seems Modding community did a major stinker and their CP folders are out.

You have it wrong, it's the FFXIV community that did the major stinker with their CP folders out.

[Ankhira]

You have it wrong, it's the FFXIV community that did the major stinker with their CP folders out.

Generalizing an entire player base because of a group of bad actors is certainly a choice. A very insulting one at that. Condemn the individuals responsible not millions of unrelated players.

[Solowing]

Generalizing an entire player base because of a group of bad actors is certainly a choice. A very insulting one at that. Condemn the individuals responsible not millions of unrelated players.

A group , this isn't just a small thing , bro. This is deeply entrenched in the culture. Community has not pushed back against the degeneracy.In fact , they found

Why on god's green earth are you advertising courtisan services over a video game? I never knew what a courtisan was until I started playing this game.

Like , how do we get to the point where we're having adult services over a virtual video game that is just normalized? Community never pushed back on this , so , it became an accepted part of the game. But that brings the actual degenerates , and the cupcake seekers.

It's not like they have to hide because the community accepted the behaviors which attracted then here.

Which gives the actual threats in this game a smokescreen.

This game has basically turned into a sexual haven for deviance.

The fact that asmond got a interview with a final fantasy xiv NSFW ERPer, sharing how that basically got turned into a business in a video game. Is a canary is a coal mine

[Ankhira]

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You are arguing about something completely different. I'm saying I don't agree with the person who I replied to implying every XIV player has CP on their PC. That is a disgusting accusation.

I'm not denying the NSFW side of the XIV community is huge and too open about their stuff, but that is not what I was talking about and you know it.

[MayuAmakura]

Do what exactly? The exposé showed that most events happened outside the game, on Discord and other social platforms. So if you want to actually prevent this from happening again, it's probably best to remove chat entirely from the game.

Chat did happen in the game but nobody ever reported because Balmung is full of same people so nobody bothers.

[MayuAmakura]

A group , this isn't just a small thing , bro. This is deeply entrenched in the culture. Community has not pushed back against the degeneracy.In fact , they found

Why on god's green earth are you advertising courtisan services over a video game? I never knew what a courtisan was until I started playing this game.

Like , how do we get to the point where we're having adult services over a virtual video game that is just normalized? Community never pushed back on this , so , it became an accepted part of the game. But that brings the actual degenerates , and the cupcake seekers.

It's not like they have to hide because the community accepted the behaviors which attracted then here.

Which gives the actual threats in this game a smokescreen.

This game has basically turned into a sexual haven for deviance.

The fact that asmond got a interview with a final fantasy xiv NSFW ERPer, sharing how that basically got turned into a business in a video game. Is a canary is a coal mine

ARR is 18+ content believe it or not, a lot of quests, sentences and swearing. It's made for adults. Every other expansion tried to tone that down but the core element has stayed on. Houses, RP, all of that incentivizes people for stuff.

Modders came and found out that it's easy to change the game, so they started doing finicky things.
FFXIV is so far the only erp game that people want to play because no others come close to the quality of this one for erp matters. That's it. That's the main reason besides others.

Also NFSW in this game is indeed a huge profit and why stolen assets from square are treated now as a gold mine. People create their own stuff with stolen goods and call it a day with a tag price of "25 bucks for this animation". People buy it, hundreds upon hundreds and square loses money because of this. But it's their fault for tolerating this.

Nobody should be paying for this content but yet again people vote with their wallets.

Some modders have made so much money from ffxiv nfsw scene that they can buy a house in merely a span of a year. That's how badly it has become.

[Solowing]

ARR is 18+ content believe it or not, a lot of quests, sentences and swearing. It's made for adults. Every other expansion tried to tone that down but the core element has stayed on. Houses, RP, all of that incentivizes people for stuff.

Modders came and found out that it's easy to change the game, so they started doing finicky things.
FFXIV is so far the only erp game that people want to play because no others come close to the quality of this one for erp matters. That's it. That's the main reason besides others.

Also NFSW in this game is indeed a huge profit and why stolen assets from square are treated now as a gold mine. People create their own stuff with stolen goods and call it a day with a tag price of "25 bucks for this animation". People buy it, hundreds upon hundreds and square loses money because of this. But it's their fault for tolerating this.

Nobody should be paying for this content but yet again people vote with their wallets.

Some modders have made so much money from ffxiv nfsw scene that they can buy a house in merely a span of a year. That's how badly it has become.

Hey , with square doing the little sexual joke saw references here and there I trust them to understand where the boundary is.

It's the players that will boundary push.

I thought the community was rather ok. Up until Shadowbringers I feel like this game was hijacked by a social movement, and players turning this game into imvu/second life. But also trying to turn this game into a reflection of themselves and their worldview.

[Kaurhz]

Hey , with square doing the little sexual joke saw references here and there I trust them to understand where the boundary is.

It's the players that will boundary push.

I thought the community was rather ok. Up until Shadowbringers I feel like this game was hijacked by a social movement, and players turning this game into imvu/second life. But also trying to turn this game into a reflection of themselves and their worldview.

I don't think it was hijacked by a movement as such...

It's always been there, the only difference is that it -- Like everything else has surfaced a lot more to the general communities due to Sqaure Enix' inability to effectively moderate their own game, and the community realizing that they can get away with it. You basically see it with everything from general plugin talk, to botting/automation, to the more 'degenerate' stuff.

These behaviors exist in most games (bar the modding side), the only difference is that a lot of those games have effective moderation, so it is kept to more closed communities, rather than openly exposed like it is here. Even here, it's mostly performative moderation.

[caffe_macchiato]

Final Fantasy XIV in the West is like a 90’s anime that got butchered in localization. There’s two versions of the game, one in Japan centered around gameplay and what the developers intended. Then there’s the American version which throws all of that out for sex and dirty mod roleplay. You join an FC, they want you in the syncshell. You friend someone, they want your sync code. You idle in a city, someone will /tell you for sexual favors. You look in party finder, there’s nothing but sex ads. The gameplay is here, but no one actually cares. The few who do are all using bots and plugins. Our version of the game is very, very different. And you can’t escape it, because everyone else plays the game this way.

When can we get the old FFXIV back?