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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhira View Post
    Nobody does this regardless of plugin use or not. Most people don't look twice at someone having a certain glam or title, at most they'll inspect to see what item it is and go on about their day. Having a rare title or glam is not the prestige some people with it is.
    I mean, plugin scandals aside, I look at the titles and think "Ah, thanks for letting me know to avoid you". I've never met an Ultimate raider that wasn't high on their own flatus. The lot of them have some... strong opinions, we'll say, on the rest of the player-base.

    That said, it was pretty vindicating watching some of them suddenly and mysteriously change their character names right after that list of people who bought clears came out.
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  2. #172
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    I complained about the disrespectful people and they reported me because im tired of the attempt of sexual abuse and gesture in dungeon, i had to report another idiot today. That only proves about my pointing out is real. It's annoying these people and their toxic culture that think they would get away with what they did. There's thoses peeps that need to chill honestly about their nasty behaviors, then they play the victims, it seems ToS isn't strict enough after all. Your post about integrity isn't for nothing.
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    Paladin is also a healer if necessary !

  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonemoose View Post
    Restore Integrity

    This is not “how it’s always been” and it’s not “just how MMOs are”.

    I don’t want to hear any more excuses on behalf of the billion-dollar company.

    I want the game to be designed better, I want anti-cheat implemented, I want cheaters banned and botting exterminated, I want meaningful moderation. I want our level of skill to be rewarded and for our achievements to mean something. I want to be able to interact with others without fear of punishment. I want this MMO to actually be an MMO, and I want this game that I love to do and be better.
    Depends what you means by "integrity" there's no as such legitimate ff14 players, if you fret to be banned by interacting there's a problem because when you just talk normaly, respectfuly a minimum why would there be a risk of ban, or is it a case of arguing ? I don't think the majority that are gone to the toxic or *cough* jail were victim , no. I don't report unless it's disrespectful or immorality acts/stalking which shouldn't happen btw!

    That's the only point i see the contradiction about what you said the moderation point, i still think if there's a reasonable post that state how anormal the game have become, it might be heard however i have seen a lot playing the victims also calling themelves reasonable person when they aren't here.

    The issue about this game isn't just the cheats and automaton things, just that i precise. If the game should have integrity "restored" it would have to be socialy wise too, not just restriction of cheats. To hope the normaliizing of disrespectful manners and toxicity be put to an end finaly. That's all i will say!
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    Last edited by LyaHonorOfPaladin; 09-21-2026 at 12:24 AM.
    Paladin is also a healer if necessary !

  4. #174
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    I'm not surprised people are divided more than before, we have the rights to say no to disrespectful acts you know. I'm always in my corner alone most of the time, that's normal i report if someone annoys me because that's amusing apparently to them but then when it happens to them they cry...unlogical. I don't pay my sub on ff14 to be bothered by idiots either. Leave me alone basicaly.
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    Paladin is also a healer if necessary !

  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaWafer View Post
    Though just to clarify, are you saying that I used CSAM as a joke or for a forum argument? If so, could you point out where I did that?
    No no, nothing about you, I meant "you" as in the general "you", any person reading the post. Sorry if that was unclear. Edited the original comment.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    No no, nothing about you, I meant "you" as in the general "you", any person reading the post. Sorry if that was unclear. Edited the original comment.
    You're okay. I figured it out afterwards. No worries.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonemoose View Post
    How is this even a controversial position to have?
    Asking for anti cheat already turns me away. If I'd have to choose between all the things that you've listed and intrusive annoying software, I'd rather have all the things that you've listed.

    That aside, achievements are fine and my thoughts on them, which aren't many, wouldn't change by any amount no matter what happened to the game. Other people using mods doesn't bother me. I haven't had any issues with GMs which I have barely had the need to interact with. If you have issues with the game I understand because so do I, though we don't agree on what is most important.
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  9. #178
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    I try to stay out of these nonsensical discussions but I would just like to point out that criminals indulging in crime everywhere does not mean some places are not more alluring to criminals than others. I mean do I even need to provide evidence of this?

    FFXIV is a game with employees who are furries. It's a game featuring human avatars with human emojis and voices. It has sexualized content directly in its story. It has sexualized glam. And yes, it has player made sexual content directly in and out of the game.

    Stop using whataboutism or black/white reasoning. You aren't fooling anyone. Just because it doesn't consume the entire game or you have never encountered people like that doesn't mean it isn't prevalent in XIV. Its impossible to prove what the actual ratio is but its not 0, and it doesn't matter if it's higher in WoW or not ultimately.

    This all comes across as needless defense of the publisher. They could do more to assuage theoretical issues with this but I would argue they don't, rather they actually make it worse. It's a strawman to make the bar "everyone who plays lalafell". I don't think anyone actually believes that and even if they did, that's a statistical impossibility no one should entertain. It's not even worth typing out. What we should be doing is admitting there is in fact this culture in XIV, and even if 99% of the time it's completely legal, it's a question of how far is too far in a social game that minors can and likely do play.

    In fact, given the trend of its development, this year they were forced to raise their cero rating in Japan due to gpose. Instead of limiting the function, they opted to make it recommended for people 17 and up. But this doesn't actually prevent anyone from buying the game or playing it. It still functions as an admission, does it not?

    https://novacrystallis.com/2026/03/f...on-group-pose/



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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 09-21-2026 at 01:01 PM.

  10. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post

    A CSAM ring being caught existing within an FF14 Discord is not indicative of anything about FF14 (or Discord), because those kinds of predators will use ANYTHING to commit their crimes and this just happened to be the MMO and chat program they chose. Assuming the accusation is proven real of course, because so far I've only seen social media posts about it and not like, actual news sites saying anything about it (and lord knows Twitter loves calling anyone a pedo as their default, knee-jerk, "I hate and want to discredit you forever" reaction).
    Ofc it is. What are you even saying lol. Your “predators can use anything” argument doesn’t mean the environment they use is irrelevant. A crime being possible anywhere doesn’t tell you whether a particular community’s norms and social structure made it easier to operate there or go unnoticed.

    Sure, one alleged ring by itself doesn’t prove that FF14 as a whole has some uniquely bad problem. But saying this could happen anywhere is not, in any way, a meaningful rebuttal to asking whether there were community specific failures that helped it happen here.
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    Last edited by JohnLakeside; 09-21-2026 at 12:42 PM.

  11. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLakeside View Post
    Ofc it is. What are you even saying lol.
    Are you deliberately missing the point, or what? Saying a tiny group of disgusting people represents FFXIV as a whole is illogical and ignorant. By that logic, if a criminal ring uses iPhones, then Apple and every iPhone user is implicated too, right? A microscopic fraction of awful people using an MMO/Discord doesn't make it indicative of a game with millions of normal players. It’s an issue with those specific individuals.
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