Why is the FF14 Community So Adverse to Banter?

[Aidorouge]

I'm sure there are people out there who disagree and would love to spend time with you, but as others already pointed out, in FFXIV this is not really a thing happening in public, that's what Free Companies and Linkshells are for, to connect with people who share the same kind of social and cultural norms, interests and humor.

To be fair, Free Companies and Linkshells aren't great sources of social interaction either. I've been through over a dozen of each and it was rare to see anyone speak in them.

But boy oh boy did every single FC and LS have a link to a Discord... hell, some LS exist ONLY to advertise a Discord and nothing else, even warning you to not use the LS chat because it'll be ignored, but instead try and get in contact with someone in-game to get your Discord invite.
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Not all banter is negative interaction! I trust it is within your power to tell the difference with decently reliable certainty between actual malice or harassment and good-natured banter. You can make this particular social element of the game more fun for yourself quite easily, with only a slight bit of mentality shift! And if you don't care about this particular social element, that's fine too, you can ignore it, but please don't demean people engaging in good-natured banter with strangers online in an expansive virtual world that MMOs provide, as some sort of terrible people. That's just not right.

Other people are welcome to go off and socialize, I'm just saying there's a reason I've given up on doing so when it comes to FF14, or MMOs in general, because it's just become this very anti-social genre due to how ToS are written now and where everyone is off in their private Discord anyway.

That became no more evident than when I went back to replay SWTOR. The last time I played that game, Discord didn't even exist yet. Sure enough though, pretty much every guild advertisement nowadays ALWAYS brought up their Discord, and while they always tried to claim it was "optional" I know damn well that 90% of all conversations will be taking place in them while the actual guild chat will be dead (and if a guild/free company "feels" dead, I don't stick around, I don't care how booming their Discord is otherwise).

[Sunhwapark]

Emoting on dead players is explicitly against ToS lol. So yeah, you would get suspended and then eventually banned if reported. That rule and chat being disabled between opponents is one of the reasons I don't bother with PvP much in FF14.

Yeah, I remember there was some time where you could use those festive items so people would pop open the champagne bottle over a corpse in Frontlines, I think it's disabled now though. People still do the /sweep and other nonsense emotes though despite the fact that we instantly revive upon dying nowadays, I cringe a bit when I happen to see when someone on the team doing that to someone else.

[ThreeBeastSmile]

Emoting on dead players is explicitly against ToS lol. So yeah, you would get suspended and then eventually banned if reported. That rule and chat being disabled between opponents is one of the reasons I don't bother with PvP much in FF14.

Nah I'm all for bantering, but that shit can stay out of PvP while on the beat. I don't know why it's considered part and parcel to be petulant tossers in anything competitive online, but if it's not relevant to the match, I don't wanna hear it (or see it if it's petty teabagging after swarming lol, though nowadays I roll my eyes at it. Since that rodeo is everlasting). Feel free to shoot me a tell airing any grievances about my performance afterwards though.~ Funnily enough that seldom happens! It's kinda quiet there too. Time and place mismatch fr.

[Kishin12345]

It's the solo player mmo. All the people you see could aswell be npcs.
If you want to spread happiness in the game, write gg and give a commendation after the duty.
Most people in this game are simply not interested in socializing due to various reasons that have been stated multiple times.

[Valence]

Nah I'm all for bantering, but that shit can stay out of PvP while on the beat. I don't know why it's considered part and parcel to be petulant tossers in anything competitive online, but if it's not relevant to the match, I don't wanna hear it (or see it if it's petty teabagging after swarming lol, though nowadays I roll my eyes at it. Since that rodeo is everlasting). Feel free to shoot me a tell airing any grievances about my performance afterwards though.~ Funnily enough that seldom happens! It's kinda quiet there too. Time and place mismatch fr.

People yearning for the pvp chat being back have obviously never played it during the time it was allowed lol

[Ilisidi]

People yearning for the pvp chat being back have obviously never played it during the time it was allowed lol

Or are the reason it's no longer allowed.

[JohnLakeside]

People yearning for the pvp chat being back have obviously never played it during the time it was allowed lol

What was so bad about it? Maybe some people said bad words or whatever, but is it really the best decision to disable chat for all people just because of a few bad apples? Once again, if someone is saying something you don't like, then you have the option to INSTANTLY solve your problem by muting them. Just seems a bit overboard to restrict chat for all people, even for those who want to engage in reasonable, friendly competitive banter.

[TeresaFortell]

Oh and I hate discord and much prefer chatting in game or on something like vent, cannot wait for discord and all the nonsense that comes with it to be a thing of the past.

It would be quite difficult to ditch Discord, as it exists for the same reason why TeamSpeak and Ventrilo existed and were used widely in the past. In high-end raids, people need to communicate to coordinate, and using in-game chat for that isn't feasible when they are spamming keys in-game. Macros can help, but voice chat is much easier to use and can run concurrently with the game. Discord is a modern version of those two programs that provides this needed feature, which is why people use it.

[Eikthyrnir]

I banter with friends. I don't need to banter with a random pud on the internet. Anyone who needs to go out of their way to try and "banter' with randos are often people you don't want to talk to in the first place.

[JohnLakeside]

I banter with friends. I don't need to banter with a random pud on the internet. Anyone who needs to go out of their way to try and "banter' with randos are often people you don't want to talk to in the first place.

Love that for you :>