UNDERCUTTING....

[Themule]

its just annoying. with so many people obviously botting, its really lame to spend so much time reorganizing my retainers to compete with people who could care less how much they get for mats they spent next to no time gathering. maybe i'm out of bounds here, but if you are going to let bots run rampant, at least make the system for selling said mats more user friendly so those of us actually playing the game don't feel like a-holes for spending so much time doing something as stupid as repricing mats over and over again. /annoyed

[Elexia]

It's a free market. If someone wants to sell something for cheaper than you, then that's their right. There is no arbitrary inflexible "true price" for a given item that you can declare from which no one is allowed to deviate. You may think it's dumb that someone sells something for far cheaper than you think it's worth, but what if they have a cheaper source for their materials, such as if they've worked out a supply arrangement with some gatherers? There's no golden rule that "item X is 150k, any less than that is undercutting." If it costs a crafter less to make something and he can make it in greater volume than you, he'd be stupid not to try to sell it for cheaper than his competition, and he may very well be trying to drive the competition (i.e., you) away. You need to either compete with their prices, wait it out if you don't think they're in it for the long haul, or deal with it.

For as much as all of the FFXI players seem to like to make themselves out to be rugged individualists, one of the things that struck me most when I started playing was how many of them bawl about being undercut.

Yeah, you're definitely not a gatherer or crafter.

[Reinheart]

This is reason why I don't like items showing price history...

[Themule]

its not a free market, people are botting like crazy. fyi

[Firon]

I undercut all the time and idc cuz i get gil either way it goes >_>.

[Molly_Millions]

lolz

I undercut like a madman this morning so that hopefully I could sell something.

/knockknockknock

/s Delivery from Undercutter's Pizza!

[Fear]

I undercut because I play for maybe 3 hours or so every other day and If i undercut by only a few k someone else will undercut me so I make sure mine sells

[Firon]

lolz

I undercut like a madman this morning so that hopefully I could sell something.

/knockknockknock

/s Delivery from Undercutter's Pizza!

omg that made me laugh but yes undercutting is gonna happen get use to it >_>.

[Elexia]

its not a free market, people are botting like crazy. fyi

Even if it was a "free market" kind of funny how tier IV materia always hover around the 100-500k mark, I mean if it's a 'free market" why aren't people selling it for much lower than 100k? Obvious people know the worth of items, which is why undercutting is ridiculous when they do it by wide margins.

There's quite the difference between undercutting a mere 1k to try to sell more and undercutting by damn near 80% lol.

[Starlord]

It's a free market. If someone wants to sell something for cheaper than you, then that's their right. There is no arbitrary inflexible "true price" for a given item that you can declare from which no one is allowed to deviate. You may think it's dumb that someone sells something for far cheaper than you think it's worth, but what if they have a cheaper source for their materials, such as if they've worked out a supply arrangement with some gatherers? There's no golden rule that "item X is 150k, any less than that is undercutting." If it costs a crafter less to make something and he can make it in greater volume than you, he'd be stupid not to try to sell it for cheaper than his competition, and he may very well be trying to drive the competition (i.e., you) away. You need to either compete with their prices, wait it out if you don't think they're in it for the long haul, or deal with it.

For as much as all of the FFXI players seem to like to make themselves out to be rugged individualists, one of the things that struck me most when I started playing was how many of them bawl about being undercut.

Exactly, you just have to do it right back. 19,999 huh? well 19,998 to you! Take that... thats what I do at least

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil! :P.