Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
Saying modern healer design damage refund or free healing resources means there will be no healer greeding and causing wipes is laughable. I've still seen healers who don't press their vast myriad of free heals as a DPS player sits at 30% HP for 15 seconds and dies to a raidwide, I still see wipes from full HP because the healers don't use their free mitigation/shields, I still see tanks randomly dying to autoattacks because neither healer wants to throw a free heal.

Greed is a player issue, not a job design issue, it should not be accounted for when designing a job.
Player behavior always has to be considered. This is just naive.

Its why the original cleric stance and tank stance dancing was removed.