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  1. #11
    Player
    NailBach's Avatar
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    Inivi Liorasch
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    Phantom
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Magic Tank for 8.0 confirmed
    (1)

  2. #12
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Would it somehow hurt your experience if he were showcased as a physical ranged, magical ranged, or healer job? If not, then I don't see the problem here.
    I never said it would hurt my experience. My point is that it doesn't hurt my experience seeing him being a melee each time, and I have no need to see him play the roles I play.
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  3. #13
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I never said it would hurt my experience. My point is that it doesn't hurt my experience seeing him being a melee each time, and I have no need to see him play the roles I play.
    Right. Like I said, I don't see the problem here. If it brings someone else joy even if it doesn't matter to you, why fight it?
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

  4. #14
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Right. Like I said, I don't see the problem here. If it brings someone else joy even if it doesn't matter to you, why fight it?
    Because I was giving a different way of thinking about it. That is all.
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  5. #15
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    See, I don't think that's true.

    Exhibit A

    Exhibit B

    Exhibit C

    Exhibit D

    Exhibit E
    For those who're gonna reply "but all of those are from cartoons" then I'm pretty sure they'll find equal badass wizard footage in the lord of the rings.
    (4)
    Secretly had a crush on Mao

  6. #16
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    I think the melee jobs suit him better, I can't see meteor being a dnc in a future trailer. Wouldn't really be the aesthetic that would attract most gamers imo.
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  7. #17
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    For those who're gonna reply "but all of those are from cartoons" then I'm pretty sure they'll find equal badass wizard footage in the lord of the rings.
    it's funny because if we use anime, you know, japanese media, as a source, the list of "badass mages" would far outweight the "badass warriors"
    (2)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  8. #18
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    "We know most people play dps so we always want to release a dps class"
    Congratulations... you're compounding the problem.
    You generate interest in tanks and healers by revamping them and releasing new ones. All they've ever done is homogenize and simplify them. 4 tanks and 4 healers vs. 14 dps jobs. What a joke.

    I guess they normally only care about pleasing the shareholders, so when the game tanks so hard they actually have to look the players' way for once, they treat us the same way instead of doing competent game design.
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  9. #19
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    Tizzy Tormentor
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    Omega
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I'd like to see Machinist as the poster job, you can make a cool action scene in CG and have the WoL fight alongside the Automaton Queen.
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  10. #20
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    For those who're gonna reply "but all of those are from cartoons" then I'm pretty sure they'll find equal badass wizard footage in the lord of the rings.
    I could keep going too. There's no shortage of flashy and stylish displays of magic or ranged weaponry in media. It's actually baffling that people genuinely think you can't make ranged or magical powers look as cool as melee.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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