A plea for RNG and proc based gameplay

[Azurarok]

(I'm sure it was also easier back when WHM actually was lvl 50 and had less buttons).

I sure don't have that impression. StoneI-II, AeroI-II were separate spells, Fluid Aura existed, Cleric Stance existed, MP management was real, autos and tankbusters could crit, cast times were longer (especially Holy), and cross-classing existed.

And yet, tanks were apparently the ones that had scarcity problems up through SB, to the point where they created achievements to lure players into it.

[Xieldras]

So RNG and procs are biting the dust after all huh?

They clearly want to remove all the 'mini-games' from the jobs now and make us focus uniquely on the bosses and environments. Too early to scream 'Homogenization!' but I'm not convinced yet of their 'unique jobs' marketing. They can't even do a classic pet class to bring into current content.

[Hanzz96]

So RNG and procs are biting the dust after all huh?

They clearly want to remove all the 'mini-games' from the jobs now and make us focus uniquely on the bosses and environments. Too early to scream 'Homogenization!' but I'm not convinced yet of their 'unique jobs' marketing. They can't even do a classic pet class to bring into current content.

Nah this is homogenisation and "be careful what you wish for" the bard they showed is just EW SMN and it seems from the 2 dps they showed that jobs are moving from 120s to 60s just like SMN. This is about making an easy mode so people resub not about keeping long lasting high end players who engaged with the battle system. Its about making the game switch 2 friendly.

[Reginald_Cain]

Dancer and Bard had well designed rng in their kits but old machinist 123 being proc based unless you had bullets made no sense because if i don't already have bullets how am i shooting the gun?! I really like current machinist minus some aoe stuff so im worried and excited for 8.0's version. we're getting an evangelion raid so perhaps a mech suit isnt far away from being in the main kit?

[RaionKansen]

I'm really hoping we get this for AST.
Mr. Prime developed AST and this is a great time for it to have a return to form.

[Hanzz96]

Dancer and Bard had well designed rng in their kits but old machinist 123 being proc based unless you had bullets made no sense because if i don't already have bullets how am i shooting the gun?! I really like current machinist minus some aoe stuff so im worried and excited for 8.0's version. we're getting an evangelion raid so perhaps a mech suit isnt far away from being in the main kit?

Yeah old MCH was bad but current DNC/BRD have great RNG that encourages decisions and quick thinking.

[Valence]

Old MCH is the only time I fully clicked with a job. Best rng system ever, and the most involved we've had in terms of planning, rng control and management, and pattern recognition on the spot. In comparison, DNC has always been about "whack a mole" with some good caveats around burst priorities (except in EW at its blandest), and BRD has always been about "whack a mole" when a proc lights up, either on the GCD or repertoires.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the rng and concept beyond those jobs, but they don't come even close to what MCH rng used to be when it comes to quick thinking and decision making.

[MayuAmakura]

Nah this is homogenisation and "be careful what you wish for" the bard they showed is just EW SMN and it seems from the 2 dps they showed that jobs are moving from 120s to 60s just like SMN. This is about making an easy mode so people resub not about keeping long lasting high end players who engaged with the battle system. Its about making the game switch 2 friendly.

Finally someone realizes that all of this has been done because of switch 2 friendly thing. Thank you.