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  1. #11
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    Yeah my favorites hands down are the DRK questline and Sorrows of Werylt. Sorrows I know is derived of something, DRK I'm not sure. But I'd love more nuanced stories like that, those that really take your breath away emotionally and lorebuild well in the meantime. So if those are derived, count me as appreciating things based off other things as long as it's done well - but again, original stuff is also important.
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    For the love of gods, this game should be more alt-friendly. At least drop the story requirements if you've completed it on one character & share shop purchases with the entire account, bare minimum. Support alt friendliness: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/506856-Suggestion-FFXIV-Alt-Friendliness

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealDesastr View Post
    Sorrows I know is derived of something
    The core plot is mostly original because most Garlean lore is, the derivative aspect comes from the Weapons, all of them are from Final Fantasy VII, including Ultima back in ARR, they are much more detailed in XIV obviously, and their exact nature changes, from being Kaijus created by the planet in an attempt to find and purge the corruption that was Jenova, but being so destructive they threatened all life on the planet, some of their role mirror VII though, like the Sapphire Weapon, who in VII infamously looked down the barrel of a railgun due to not being able to understand what it was, and had its head promptly blown off, and that's the one that has the least meaningful battle content, being only a solo duty where you play as the G-Warrior instead, or the fact that only Ultima Weapon is a mandatory fight, while the other three are optional bosses, which again mirror their role in XIV, with Ultima being a major MSQ boss, and the others being optional instances.

    See what I mean by taking and remixing? references aren't necessarily bad, a reference that relies on you understanding the original is bad, but a reference that can be enjoyed independent of the original is great actually, which is what I see done with the Weapons.

    Although, visiting this again to double check info reminded me there is still two more Weapons in FF VII media though not the original game, the Jade Weapon and the Omega Weapon, and makes me wonder if we will ever see them in XIV in some capacity...
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    I think incorporating ff11's time travel system would be cool. we could visit 1.0 zones
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    I'm like crit melds fine, I wonder when they'll be me mine! penta meld then i hit rewind, to watch it slot one more time and I got thit SODA!

    -Reginald Pain #1 on the fa mic, blessed with Hydaelyns might, I'll kill ya on sight... *POW*

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    It's too late. They already made the FFXI raid. And I'm already not that inspired by it really so I think it wouldn't work.
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    I want FF14 to stand on its own again, I think we've lent to hard on older Final Fantasy's and an original story would be refreshing

    Well, and Meracydia, but it's clear we are not going there for a long time
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    The game is basically a giant FF theme park and that's a part of the game that I really love, they aren't going to stop and I don't want them to. I enjoy going "hey its that guy from that one part of [insert FF game]."
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    They should make an expansion based on ff7 or ff9… Sure we have some ff9 references in dawntrail, but it’s not enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammAndCheese View Post
    The game is basically a giant FF theme park and that's a part of the game that I really love, they aren't going to stop and I don't want them to. I enjoy going "hey its that guy from that one part of [insert FF game]."
    Exactly this.

    I would love the Mana (Seikken Densetsu) series to be the next alliance raid.

    There's a lot of joy in re-experiencing Final Fantasy XI.

    This game is a theme park. The people complaining the hardest are the ones who said in previous posts that they're leaving. So, bye I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    This game is a theme park. The people complaining the hardest are the ones who said in previous posts that they're leaving. So, bye I guess.
    Ya know, that’s fair. I have already decided to leave, and I’m just marking time, so I suppose my opinions don’t matter. I will leave a parting warning though that an appeal to nostalgia only works on people who have experienced the thing you’re evoking nostalgia for. It’s a limited and decreasing audience … just like this game’s player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraceHorizon View Post
    an appeal to nostalgia only works on people who have experienced the thing you’re evoking nostalgia for. It’s a limited and decreasing audience
    That's why they appeal to the nostalgia of every FF game, rather than just one. They have stated this as the reason multiple times.

    For many people, FF14 isn't their first FF game, but rather one they got into after playing some of the others, because a lot of people are afraid of MMORPGs.

    But if they draw those players in and it looks completely unique like no other game, they will think "this isn't an FF game". Because every FF game is different, and so if you only played FF7 you might not think this is an FF game. If you only played FF9 you might not think this is an FF game.

    To solve that, they have to incorporate lots of elements from these very different looking games. You can switch the menu from grey like FF9 to blue like FF7, you can attach materia like FF7, you can visit the gold saucer like FF7, there are black mages like in many FF games, there is a Cid, in the current iteration you can summon temporarily like in older FF games but then keep a summon out the whole time if you glam Carbuncle so that it feels like newer FF games.

    However there is a line we could draw between nostalgia in game systems and nostalgia in the story. As long as the systems have a lot of nostalgia to make it feel like an FF game, the story doesn't necessarily need to. That said, it is rather cool getting to fight Eden from FF8, the weapons from FF7, and to get updated familiar music from these games.
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