My dream expansion

[Miguel85NYC]

That takes place in Final Fantasy 11 shard! Please make this happen

[Kranel_San]

I have a better idea. FFXI Remaster

[Alicie]

Hell no. Stop shoving other games into FFXIV, keep FFXIV as FFXIV please. That also includes alliance raids.

[Enkidoh]

Stop asking for FFXI to be remade, it just ain't gonna happen.

Its why we have the FFXI raids now here, so a little bit of Vana'diel will live on here in Hydaelyn when it inevitably is shut down, that's the closest you're going to get.

[VeyaAkemi]

Hell no. Stop shoving other games into FFXIV, keep FFXIV as FFXIV please. That also includes alliance raids.

Not that I'd want to go to Vana'diel, especially not if it is being pitched with AI slop, but there is genuinely no part of XIV that isn't taken from other FF games in some capacity, it remixes things around sure, but it is still so much, far beyond what could be called "just a reference".

[GraceHorizon]

Not that I'd want to go to Vana'diel, especially not if it is being pitched with AI slop, but there is genuinely no part of XIV that isn't taken from other FF games in some capacity, it remixes things around sure, but it is still so much, far beyond what could be called "just a reference".

For real, but I find some of my favorite parts of the story of FFXIV to be when it’s doing its own original story, or at least referencing an older Final Fantasy that I’m not familiar with. The a Shadowbringers MSQ comes to mind, and also the Endwalker alliance raids, whose story was my favorite of the whole expansion. The FFXIV writers don’t always knock it out of the park with their original stories, but I think tying FFXIV to older FF games hurts as much as it helps.

[Destati]

No thanks I'm kinda tired of 11. In fact I'd prefer it if they stopped crutching so much on other FF games but since they're obviously not going to stop doing that I'd rather see more FFX/FFX-2 and its aesthetic.

[TheRealDesastr]

Hell no. Stop shoving other games into FFXIV, keep FFXIV as FFXIV please. That also includes alliance raids.

THIS. PLEASE. THANK YOU.

I just... maybe I'm in the minority in this situation too, but I've only played and am interested in XIV (Well, was). While yes, I think they've done a great job of blending games into the past where I didn't even know it was a reference - lately it's been glaringly obvious they've only cared to cater to nostalgia/say: 'hey guys this other game exists isn't it so cool? Go play it or if you already play it see, here, it's cool!'.

It is GLARINGLY obvious with the horrible writing for the postpatch of Endwalker, where I was so excited to see more nuance with the void and explore more of Zero's sanctuary only to have that all thrown away and the typical 'oh actually yay suddenly she's turned into a paladin and that's her arc'. With a badly written 'oh wait this voidsent Golbez is good now so there's your nuance'. No, Golbez was so hamfisted story-arc-wise. Gods, the ending of that postpatch series would have made me quit entirely if I wasn't kept here by housing/RP, it was so disappointing, and for what...to follow the story of an old FF game. Urgh. I love voidsent and the nuance All Saints (at least in the far past) has brought to them lorewise, and was expecting so much more only to be let down so hard.

Collabs and all are cool I guess, again if they actually manage to write the lore in a way that's understandable, but it feels so detrimental to just every. single. time. make a slight modification of something that already exists. Again - if they can do it well to the point where it's not obvious, great. But gods, please, something original would be nice. Well, something original written WELL which is apparently a tall ask lately.

And even if it is obvious to folks who are in the know - fine, but write it in a way someone who has no idea would also understand, and if it compromises the story/causes things that make no sense or ruin what was being built... don't do it, or go in a different direction, something unique.

[VeyaAkemi]

For real, but I find some of my favorite parts of the story of FFXIV to be when it’s doing its own original story, or at least referencing an older Final Fantasy that I’m not familiar with. The a Shadowbringers MSQ comes to mind, and also the Endwalker alliance raids, whose story was my favorite of the whole expansion. The FFXIV writers don’t always knock it out of the park with their original stories, but I think tying FFXIV to older FF games hurts as much as it helps.

This right here makes it sound like your problem isn't so much with adopting things from other games, but rather the moment you recognize it, it takes away from your enjoyment, which is kind of a you thing.

Everything is derivative, and so long as they can make something interesting enough out of it, I don't mind them deriving from the series' own past, I've said many times Eden is my favorite story in the game and that's heavily derivative of VIII, it's entirely about what comes out the other end.

[GraceHorizon]

This right here makes it sound like your problem isn't so much with adopting things from other games, but rather the moment you recognize it, it takes away from your enjoyment, which is kind of a you thing.

Nah I was just hedging my bets in case someone came in saying “no the Shadowbringers MSQ is a direct copy of Final Fantasy XII-3.7 Birth By Yawning” or some such. I actually thought the FF4-inspired parts of Endwalker were fun and charming, for example, and the references enhanced my enjoyment. But my favorite FFXIV stories were ones where the writers did their own thing.