Now That The Game Is Getting A Housing Upgrade, When Are The Extra Wards?

[Reginald_Cain]

Rest in peace are housing it got hit with a bazooka! Yoshi tells please look forward to it whenever I hit the hookah! Kaboom! Kabloom! Kaboom... I was in my room trying to teach my little sister then I heard a boom it sounded like a missile! What that is? Who that was? That's our ward slots oh they're gone...

[NegativeS]

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Regardless of how easy to make the money, the argument is also how willing these people are to spend the money. Because there are a lot of things someone could conceivably spend gil on--gear, leveling, mounts and other expensive items, and some of the things you listed...

But even outside of that, the argument still stands, at least on highly populated servers like those on Aether. All houses end up in the clutches of hoarders eventually, because they have virtually infinite gil compared to an individual's ~100m, and an army of alt characters compared to the individual only wanting the house on their main (which makes sense). So that's 50 set-and-forget bids against one 'if I don't get it this time I'm done with this system' bid. And there are multiple of the first group competing with each other.

And then you end up with wards that look like this...



...and the game is worse off because of it.

Better to tighten the restrictions on the system and be done with it. A few ERP venues is not worth this miscarriage of game design... and excluding extraordinary circumstances, the only reason one would have to disagree is if they were part of the problem.

(And judging by your shell FC of choice, I think I can guess where you stand...)

[Voidsent-Uchiha]

Regardless of how easy to make the money, the argument is also how willing these people are to spend the money. Because there are a lot of things someone could conceivably spend gil on--gear, leveling, mounts and other expensive items, and some of the things you listed...
As is the same case for the venues/submarine people. You choose what you invest your gil in. If you spend your 100mil on glamours, and they spend their 100mil to make more gil later on, you live with the consequences of your decisions.

because they have virtually infinite gil compared to an individual's ~100m, and an army of alt characters compared to the individual only wanting the house on their main
And where does that infinite gil come from before the first submarine is even built? That ward costed 300-400mil just on property, and 300-400mil in submarine gearing costs. Where does that 600-800+mil come from? The first 10 FC's? Where did the money from that come from? Same starting point as everyone else. And as I said, them going against an army of alt characters without alts themselves is their choice. You have legit FC's that I've seen on Balmung on Twitter bidding a bil+ on large's as well. And you as an individual, are going into a lottery category meant for groups of people and get mad that those groups of people outbid you, as a single person, in a category, not catered to you. You being outbid, is not the problem. That is systemically intended. What you actually have a problem with, is the ratio of houses meant for individuals vs. groups because you don't want to compete with groups but find yourself forced to.

(And judging by your shell FC of choice, I think I can guess where you stand...)
You think, but if you went to the plot, like every other that's open, there's not even a workshop built despite that house being bought back in 2022/2023. Good attempt though.

forced to write here.

[Veritas-Ancora]

I just lost a bid among 110 other people.

We need housing updates, stat.

[Aidorouge]

They could keep the server closed to new people or keep it restricted but at least open wards for people that are actually there...

I know it's a community problem, sometime I really wishes that people goes back to Primals or Dynamis, especially when a new raids comes out. It become hard for us to just travel to see our friend or do stuff...

I think the issue Square-Enix has with this is that they would be making new wards for Aether constantly in order to accommodate every possible person there (doubly so if houses keep getting grabbed up by hoarders first), or how it would require them to PERMANENTLY lock down Aether for transfers going forward because they don't want people thinking "if we all just rush in when the gate is open, SE will be FORCED to make houses for us".

Whether or not that's a fair trade off for some, that Aether goes into eternal lockdown (transfers and traveling) for adequate housing for all of those already there, I can't really say because every time Aether gets too congested for transfers or traveling, there's always people popping their head up complaining they can't get in or can't bring their friends over anymore, and then SE like fools creaks open the gate and another flood comes in acting like Aether is the only data center that works.

Even then, what would "adequate housing" look like? Lots of people refuse anything smaller than a Medium, or they abhor owning a house in the Goblet or Empyreum. Would they need to add thousands of wards in Shirogane and the Mists before everyone on Aether would be at last satisfied? Will they all need to be FC wards because most people want a house that makes gil on the side? SE's idiotic decision in making housing scarce and tying money to it (both real and fake) never ceases to keep making problems.

[Solowing]

If someone wishes to buy a house for their FC, they are entirely in their rights to do so. The issue is locking out paying customers from something everyone should have equal opportunities to own.



I transferred worlds because my friends are on that world. To transfer away will be counter-intuitive. Instead of adding in new empty worlds, they should have expanded the existing ones but that's not the topic for today.

Equal opportunity what do we mean?

Because having an equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome.

As it stands, everybody has an equal opportunity to get a plot.Because everyone has an equal chance to win a plot.Regardless of what server theyre on.

I think you're looking for equal outcome, it's not opportunity that you seek, but the guarantee for everyone to be able to have.

Not saying you're wrong for wanting it. But I think the word opportunity is being liberally used when a guarantee is what they are really asking for

[Kaosuko]

Equal opportunity what do we mean?

Because having an equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome.

As it stands, everybody has an equal opportunity to get a plot.Because everyone has an equal chance to win a plot.Regardless of what server theyre on.

I think you're looking for equal outcome, it's not opportunity that you seek, but the guarantee for everyone to be able to have.

Not saying you're wrong for wanting it. But I think the word opportunity is being liberally used when a guarantee is what they are really asking for

Opportunity as in if a player wants a house, they should be able to get one. The current lottery process is not equal opportunity because only the ones that are lacking housing are vying to compete against each other. The ones already with housing that had them before the lottery change did not have to compete, so not everyone had the same opportunities to get a house.

[Solowing]

Opportunity as in if a player wants a house, they should be able to get one. The current lottery process is not equal opportunity because only the ones that are lacking housing are vying to compete against each other. The ones already with housing that had them before the lottery change did not have to compete, so not everyone had the same opportunities to get a house.

Equal opportunity ensures a level playing field—such as identical rules or access—but does not guarantee equal outcomes, which are determined by individual choices, effort, talent, and luck.

[MayuAmakura]

We always have a few of them that no matter how good the changes should be, they will try to blame players for not having a house rather than square.

[whatsup]

I see plenty of small housing each lottery. Not sure what the problem is. I have gotten mine by choosing lottery locations with very low entry numbers. Not being picky about the location for first home. You can try for better location after you get that first house.

The lottery is WAAAAAAAY better than standing and clicking for hours at the house you want. This was the old way. It was horrible.