Now That The Game Is Getting A Housing Upgrade, When Are The Extra Wards?

[AlliciaCapulet]

It probably wouldn’t be that difficult to simply add a new “tab” or additional wards when needed. They could even manage this dynamically for each world and each housing district.

For example, if Ishgard becomes full (let’s say around 95% of the houses are taken), even if Ul'dah, Limsa, Gridania, or Shirogane still have available plots, they could simply add another Ishgard ward so players can still obtain a house in the district they actually want.

On lower-population servers, they could also remove or disable empty wards until the others fill up.

I really don’t see why the system needs to remain static when server populations differ so much. Some housing districts are clearly more popular than others, and every server has a different level of demand.

At the end of the day, this is a video game. It’s virtual space, not physical land. Instances can theoretically be added or removed depending on demand.

And for those telling me to just transfer servers: I started playing on Jenova the day the server opened. I played until late 5.2 when I took a break, then returned in 6.4. Of course I lost my house during that time. But my FC, my friends, and everyone I know are still on Jenova.

I haven’t managed to obtain a medium or large house again, and the small plot I eventually won isn’t even in the district I wanted. But the solution shouldn’t be asking players to abandon the server they’ve always played on.

On Jenova, on some weeks, there isn't any houses in some district, not even a small one to bid on.

I also don’t really believe there’s a serious hardware limitation behind this. Housing wards are just instances. If the infrastructure can handle an entire expansion’s worth of new content, it should be able to handle a few additional housing instances as well.

[Kaosuko]

I mean you say this, but it's literally not legally the case. No point in even responding to the rest if we're not being objective legally. You can literally be banned at any moment and not even be allowed access to the game, to the forums, to responding on social media, with 0 legal recourse. Your opinion even being allowed to be spoken is a privilege. If you played other games where staff regularly locked threads from the start and deleted threads on certain topics for years, regularly blocked creators, filed copyright claims on youtube video commentaries, you wouldn't even be in the realm of conflating what you're allowed to do vs. what you're entitled to.

Do not speak about legality if you know nothing of the subject matter.
This isn't even on point of the topic yet you keep defending Square Enix by saying "you shouldn't be able to complain".

[Voidsent-Uchiha]

you keep defending Square Enix by saying "you shouldn't be able to complain".

Aaaannnnd here comes the gaslighting with quotes that never existed. Utterly surprised.

[Reginald_Cain]

Rest in peace are housing it got hit with a bazooka! Yoshi tells please look forward to it whenever I hit the hookah! Kaboom! Kabloom! Kaboom... I was in my room trying to teach my little sister then I heard a boom it sounded like a missile! What that is? Who that was? That's our ward slots oh they're gone...

[Aidorouge]

I really don’t see why the system needs to remain static when server populations differ so much. Some housing districts are clearly more popular than others, and every server has a different level of demand.

Because Square-Enix has a problem with people congregating onto one data center while leaving the rest of them to rot, so they're not going to do something that further encourages people to keep flooding into Aether which is what more wards there would do.

Trying to make people transfer out isn't ideal, and I certainly don't blame anyone for refusing to do so, but Square-Enix isn't about to make the problem we made for ourselves worst because it was 100% the community's fault that Aether got labeled the "raiding" data center while refusing to play anywhere else.

As for certain wards being more desirable than others, that's admittedly on Square-Enix for making places like the Goblet and Empyreum pretty damn dull compared to the rest, but I also don't know what could be done to make them more appealing so people are more willing to choose them instead of everyone rushing into Shirogane and the Mists.
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Do not speak about legality if you know nothing of the subject matter.
This isn't even on point of the topic yet you keep defending Square Enix by saying "you shouldn't be able to complain".

You should probably know that the person you're arguing with is a house hoarder themselves, so of course they see "no problem" with the current system and automatically assume everyone else is "entitled" even as they sit on entire wards to themselves. You won't ever get an unbiased or sensible discussion out of them, because its in their best interest that things remain as they are.

[AlliciaCapulet]

Because Square-Enix has a problem with people congregating onto one data center while leaving the rest of them to rot, so they're not going to do something that further encourages people to keep flooding into Aether which is what more wards there would do.

Trying to make people transfer out isn't ideal, and I certainly don't blame anyone for refusing to do so, but Square-Enix isn't about to make the problem we made for ourselves worst because it was 100% the community's fault that Aether got labeled the "raiding" data center while refusing to play anywhere else.

As for certain wards being more desirable than others, that's admittedly on Square-Enix for making places like the Goblet and Empyreum pretty damn dull compared to the rest, but I also don't know what could be done to make them more appealing so people are more willing to choose them instead of everyone rushing into Shirogane and the Mists.
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You should probably know that the person you're arguing with is a house hoarder themselves, so of course they see "no problem" with the current system and automatically assume everyone else is "entitled" even as they sit on entire wards to themselves. You won't ever get an unbiased or sensible discussion out of them, because its in their best interest that things remain as they are.

They could keep the server closed to new people or keep it restricted but at least open wards for people that are actually there...

I know it's a community problem, sometime I really wishes that people goes back to Primals or Dynamis, especially when a new raids comes out. It become hard for us to just travel to see our friend or do stuff...

[NegativeS]

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Regardless of how easy to make the money, the argument is also how willing these people are to spend the money. Because there are a lot of things someone could conceivably spend gil on--gear, leveling, mounts and other expensive items, and some of the things you listed...

But even outside of that, the argument still stands, at least on highly populated servers like those on Aether. All houses end up in the clutches of hoarders eventually, because they have virtually infinite gil compared to an individual's ~100m, and an army of alt characters compared to the individual only wanting the house on their main (which makes sense). So that's 50 set-and-forget bids against one 'if I don't get it this time I'm done with this system' bid. And there are multiple of the first group competing with each other.

And then you end up with wards that look like this...



...and the game is worse off because of it.

Better to tighten the restrictions on the system and be done with it. A few ERP venues is not worth this miscarriage of game design... and excluding extraordinary circumstances, the only reason one would have to disagree is if they were part of the problem.

(And judging by your shell FC of choice, I think I can guess where you stand...)

[UNDEAD10000]

Before they adds more wards, they really needs to do something with this massive problem of housing plot hoarders where single FC or single player using massive amount of accounts have bought +15 of housing plots on mutiple wards and in some cases even bought entire or almost entire ward and of course there is chance that these housing plot hoarders does have something to do with RMT when quite often i have seen these RMT bots advertising to selling housing plots in recent years.

It would be lot better if they make entirely new housing system where it's a instance based and every player can buy small, medium or large housing plot without need to wait x amount of time to find purchasable housing plot and have pure luck to win the housing plot lottery while the housing lottery system is active.

[Voidsent-Uchiha]

Regardless of how easy to make the money, the argument is also how willing these people are to spend the money. Because there are a lot of things someone could conceivably spend gil on--gear, leveling, mounts and other expensive items, and some of the things you listed...
As is the same case for the venues/submarine people. You choose what you invest your gil in. If you spend your 100mil on glamours, and they spend their 100mil to make more gil later on, you live with the consequences of your decisions.

because they have virtually infinite gil compared to an individual's ~100m, and an army of alt characters compared to the individual only wanting the house on their main
And where does that infinite gil come from before the first submarine is even built? That ward costed 300-400mil just on property, and 300-400mil in submarine gearing costs. Where does that 600-800+mil come from? The first 10 FC's? Where did the money from that come from? Same starting point as everyone else. And as I said, them going against an army of alt characters without alts themselves is their choice. You have legit FC's that I've seen on Balmung on Twitter bidding a bil+ on large's as well. And you as an individual, are going into a lottery category meant for groups of people and get mad that those groups of people outbid you, as a single person, in a category, not catered to you. You being outbid, is not the problem. That is systemically intended. What you actually have a problem with, is the ratio of houses meant for individuals vs. groups because you don't want to compete with groups but find yourself forced to.

(And judging by your shell FC of choice, I think I can guess where you stand...)
You think, but if you went to the plot, like every other that's open, there's not even a workshop built despite that house being bought back in 2022/2023. Good attempt though.

forced to write here.

[Veritas-Ancora]

I just lost a bid among 110 other people.

We need housing updates, stat.