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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    My point basically remains unchanged, you shouldn’t be rewarded with access to a high xp roulette if you aren’t willing to unlock all alliance raids and the fact that people levelling already tilt it towards CT is exactly the reason why people shouldn’t be able to queue for it at near max level with only CT unlocked

    If you are too lazy to unlock the raids then you just don’t get the roulette
    The problem is, it's low xp roulette. For it to be wanted by players so much that they'd be ready to go through hours of unlocking alliance raids, it needs to offer far, far more than it currently does.
    It basically only worth if you get CT raid, otherwise you better off just queueing regular dungeon of your level manually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    My point basically remains unchanged, you shouldn’t be rewarded with access to a high xp roulette if you aren’t willing to unlock all alliance raids and the fact that people levelling already tilt it towards CT is exactly the reason why people shouldn’t be able to queue for it at near max level with only CT unlocked

    If you are too lazy to unlock the raids then you just don’t get the roulette
    Alicie DOES have a point that alliance raid roulette could yield better rewards, and that the time it takes to clear Mhach and beyond could be reduced by re-tuning boss HP, otherwise it does indeed feel like a waste to run alliance raid roulette right now for most people. It's one thing to take away the carrot if they refuse to do the work, its another for them to do the work and then give them half a carrot. But then I already said as much before that I'm fine with making all ARs unlocked being a requirement to use AR roulette, in exchange for making the roulette reward better to make unlocking access too tempting to ignore. Make people WANT that bunch of carrots for whatever work is given to them.

    Boss tuning is another discussion I suppose, but it feels like people would at least agree with it for Nier it seems. I haven't met anyone yet who doesn't think they're a slog compared to the rest because apparently their HP pools are indeed bigger. (Or maybe ilvl shenanigans makes us hit weaker, I'm not sure.)
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  3. #23
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    The alliance roulette offers basically an entire level of XP, what more do people want?

    People are so warped by how overscaled we are for crystal tower anything less than 15 minutes of mindless button pressing on a boss you aren’t even paying attention to is apparently now not worth the rewards
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninaran View Post
    More people would probably unlock newer raids if they weren't such a slog to get through. You can do two runs of a Crystal Tower raid in the time it takes you to do one run of Dun Scaith or any of the Nier raids it feels like.
    The bosses need to have their HP lowered.
    The problem isn't that the other raids are a slog but that CT is too easy and too fast.
    The roulettes aren't there for fast rewards but to fill the duties for first timers.

    People have basically forgotten that an A-raid is not supposed to be like CT but more like the other raids.
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    I don't think the roulette itself should offer better rewards.

    Just re-scale the old alliance raids. Sadly, short of mandating unlocking a turn from each expansion, there's nothing they can do because they lacked very fundamental foresight when mandating crystal tower... So there will always be that massive disparity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The alliance roulette offers basically an entire level of XP, what more do people want?

    People are so warped by how overscaled we are for crystal tower anything less than 15 minutes of mindless button pressing on a boss you aren’t even paying attention to is apparently now not worth the rewards
    All people want is a roulette that ends as soon as it pops and gives 50 levels of XP. Is that really too much to ask?
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The alliance roulette offers basically an entire level of XP, what more do people want?

    People are so warped by how overscaled we are for crystal tower anything less than 15 minutes of mindless button pressing on a boss you aren’t even paying attention to is apparently now not worth the rewards
    Dunno, I haven't used alliance raid roulette for months after it got "ruined" by stuff other than Crystal Tower.

    For me at least, it's not worth it to get dragged into Mhach/Ivalice/Nier, especially when I get no AIN, no drops, a repair bill that voids what little gil I earned, and I can get almost as many poetics if I just do combat society quests in the same day.

    It's also why the whole "well I guess you just don't get the rewards then" is such a non-threat because I'm getting by just fine without them, with the added bonus that I'm not negatively affecting somebody's run by dying on "brain dead" content for the umpteenth time.
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    That’s the entire point

    CT is the outlier not the expected base. If you can only tolerate AR’s when they are as brainless and fast as CT then you don’t even want to be doing alliance raids you want to be doing free XP like the MSQ roulette

    Desire to do that shouldn’t override what the roulettes are actually for which is filling the queues for people who are obviously struggling to pop the higher level AR’s
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #29
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    If y'all are on EU datacenter, and it's a newer player, I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and ask if your friend is trying to do a 24 man alliance raid with only one language in the checkbox checked.

    Finding 24 people in duty roulette queue for a 24 man raid when you are willing to play with anyone? Possible.

    Finding 24 people who are willing to play if you only are willing to play with people with German or French checked on the box? Much more difficult, because it sets aside that instance as a French only or German only (or English only or Japanese only) run.

    One of the first things I learned to do in Duty Finder on my alt characters on the EU servers is check all 4 language boxes, and use auto translate for basic greetings but otherwise stay silent in roulettes, for the most part.

    Duty Finder defaults you to only your localization language and you have to manually check all the other boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The alliance roulette offers basically an entire level of XP, what more do people want?

    People are so warped by how overscaled we are for crystal tower anything less than 15 minutes of mindless button pressing on a boss you aren’t even paying attention to is apparently now not worth the rewards
    If the requirement to participate in alliance roulette is to unlock ALL raids from ALL expansion, I want at least 5 levels per roulette.
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    If the story is so good, why does story skip never leaves bestsellers of FFXIV Store?

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