Free trial accounts being used to obstruct zones by one guy (Weeaboo Police/CIA)

[Thurmnmurmn]

It's super weird that people keep jumping to defend this guy.

"Erm, technically it doesn't violate the obstruction of play rule because they don't have collisions and you can walk through them!"
"Erm, technically every single player on the server can just manually add all 100+ accounts to their blacklist to not see them!"

Who cares? It's obviously anti-social behaviour and the GMs should do something about it. If there isn't a rule in the ToS that it technically violates, then make one.

It's also super weird to me that people keep jumping to get this guy (or these guys) banned just for standing there.
I mean, someone came back to this thread, 6 months later, just to laugh at him maybe being banned? (no proof so I dunno). Talk about living rent free in peoples head.
The ToS isn't there to enforce whatever you feel it should. And neither are we the people to enforce or decide how it's used. If you have an issue with someone, report and move on. It's not up to us to decide the outcome of the report.

[HammAndCheese]

It's also super weird to me that people keep jumping to get this guy (or these guys) banned just for standing there.
I mean, someone came back to this thread, 6 months later, just to laugh at him maybe being banned? (no proof so I dunno). Talk about living rent free in peoples head.
The ToS isn't there to enforce whatever you feel it should. And neither are we the people to enforce or decide how it's used. If you have an issue with someone, report and move on. It's not up to us to decide the outcome of the report.

It's not so random when you realize they've been in Sarg for several days now, not so much "living rent free" when it's standing in your face whenever you go to limsa. LOL

[Thurmnmurmn]

And why does someone afking in Limsa warrant them being hated this much?
I would get it if it was people who were mad at his RP of being racist vs Lala's but this is just about them existing considering the times they actually talk are so minimal.

[Daralii]

It's not so random when you realize they've been in Sarg for several days now, not so much "living rent free" when it's standing in your face whenever you go to limsa. LOL

Should I start reporting the handful of performers I regularly see at the Gridania aetheryte? I didn't consent to hear their songs.

[HammAndCheese]

Should I start reporting the handful of performers I regularly see at the Gridania aetheryte? I didn't consent to hear their songs.

I don't really care what you do.

[Kaurhz]

And why does someone afking in Limsa warrant them being hated this much?
I would get it if it was people who were mad at his RP of being racist vs Lala's but this is just about them existing considering the times they actually talk are so minimal.

My 2 cents is..

For what purpose is this player just... 'standing there'? Especially with the volume of characters used...

Not that I personally care, but I think the intent is a lot more than 'I'm just standing here AFK'

It's really the intent that separates this instance from the bog standard actually sitting there AFK people.

[Underscore]

It's also super weird to me that people keep jumping to get this guy (or these guys) banned just for standing there.
I mean, someone came back to this thread, 6 months later, just to laugh at him maybe being banned? (no proof so I dunno). Talk about living rent free in peoples head.
The ToS isn't there to enforce whatever you feel it should. And neither are we the people to enforce or decide how it's used. If you have an issue with someone, report and move on. It's not up to us to decide the outcome of the report.

Are you friends with him or something? This is a bit disingenuous.

The ToS exists to create a fair and pleasant environment for players of the game. Anti-social behaviour like this (and verbal harassment, I've heard?) runs contrary to that goal. Some people seem to really want this to continue in perpetuity, but like... is the bit really still that funny to you after all this time? I could kinda understand the appeal if it were temporary and tasteful in execution, but there isn't even a punchline to the joke. It's just a hundred fake characters clogging up Limsa forever while the guy responsible revels in the resulting negative attention.

For a real world analogy; blasting music on the train without headphones isn't illegal in most places, but I think most people would understandably be bothered by it. If someone is taking the same train route back and forth all day every day, nonstop blasting the worst music you've heard in your life through a dozen bluetooth speakers for the purpose of deliberately bothering everyone around them... should everyone else be expected to wear ear plugs? Personally I think it'd make more sense to ban the one guy from riding that train for the sake of public order. This is a disturbance to the eyes rather than the ears, but you get my point. You could use a more 1:1 analogue and it would still stand.

[Underscore]

Should I start reporting the handful of performers I regularly see at the Gridania aetheryte? I didn't consent to hear their songs.

Performers in Gridania are performing a song for the entertainment of others. They aren't taking up the entire aetheryte plaza, they aren't acting with any ill intent, they haven't received substantial public backlash for what they do, and mostly importantly they leave once their performance has concluded. They are much fewer in number like you said, and you can conveniently mute the sound of their performance with a simple command or macro on your hotbar. This is much easier than having to blacklist over a hundred accounts, not going to Limsa or transferring home servers.

This isn't equivalent at all.

[Astronis]

Should I start reporting the handful of performers I regularly see at the Gridania aetheryte? I didn't consent to hear their songs.

You can mute bard performances in System Configuration. And if their presence still bothers you, you can blacklist them. There aren't hundreds of them; likely 10 blacklists will take care of your issue for years.

[Alicie]

It's super weird that people keep jumping to defend this guy.

"Erm, technically it doesn't violate the obstruction of play rule because they don't have collisions and you can walk through them!"
"Erm, technically every single player on the server can just manually add all 100+ accounts to their blacklist to not see them!"

Who cares? It's obviously anti-social behaviour and the GMs should do something about it. If there isn't a rule in the ToS that it technically violates, then make one.

There's a clause in rules where SE reserves right to terminate anyone's account for any reason.
It's about time to use this clause here.
Literally any other game would've dealt with this issue long time ago.
Instead, players are forced to deal with it via their own methods breaking tos in process.