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  1. #81
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhira View Post
    AST was perfectly viable even with the RNG.
    AST was perfectly viable for what exactly? Speaking from experience perchance? Please do clue me in...

    It's okay for a job to be unique and be slightly less reliable. Not everything has to be rigid for perfect effectiveness
    No is not. Look how MCH performed in the last tier vs Yans phase, aka adds. Are you even commenting in good faith, because I doubt it.
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  2. #82
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    Ankhira Autumnsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    AST was perfectly viable for what exactly? Speaking from experience perchance? Please do clue me in...

    No is not. Look how MCH performed in the last tier vs Yans phase, aka adds. Are you even commenting in good faith, because I doubt it.
    Okay, I'll bite. MCH is and always has been fine. You were never going to struggle with Yans phase suddenly because of a MCH. Maybe in week 1? Potentially?

    But, what's happening is a small group of people obsessing over everything going perfect in terms of damage and mit and whatnot, most group who took a MCH had zero issues and it's a community driven idea that MCH is a bad job. AST before DT was going into savages and ultimates without any issues, despite it having RNG. It's only an "issue" if you make it one. People see "Oh x said y is not doing enough dmg online so it must be true" without even realizing a good MCH player will still do more than a bad BLM player.

    Regardless, you keep being condescending towards those who don't share your view and pretend you're right based on personal feelings, which is fine, but I don't need the snark when I'm simply pointing out you are wrong. But sure, keep proving my point. ♥
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    Last edited by Ankhira; 02-10-2026 at 07:25 AM.
    That was fun! I'm going to take a 21 hour nap now~

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhira View Post
    Okay, I'll bite. MCH is and always has been fine. You were never going to struggle with Yans phase suddenly because of a MCH. Maybe in week 1? Potentially?

    But, what's happening is a small group of people obsessing over everything going perfect in terms of damage and mit and whatnot, most group who took a MCH had zero issues and it's a community driven idea that MCH is a bad job. AST before DT was going into savages and ultimates without any issues, despite it having RNG. It's only an "issue" if you make it one. People see "Oh x said y is not doing enough dmg online so it must be true" without even realizing a good MCH player will still do more than a bad BLM player.

    Regardless, you keep being condescending towards those who don't share your view and pretend you're right based on personal feelings, which is fine, but I don't need the snark when I'm simply pointing out you are wrong. But sure, keep proving my point. ♥
    I don't think your bf clearing ultimates for you counts..

    And sure.. that's why MCH was "banned" from PF until they adjusted it because I was imagining it in my head and it was clearly not an issue. Everything was fine, and everyone was just having a bad dream.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I don't think your bf clearing ultimates for you counts..

    And sure.. that's why MCH was "banned" from PF until they adjusted it because I was imagining it in my head and it was clearly not an issue. Everything was fine, and everyone was just having a bad dream.
    I don’t even have a boyfriend, so that little jab didn’t land the way you'd hoped it would. Believe whatever helps you sleep, but don’t project your own skill issues onto me just because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I'll stop biting now, you're clearly doing nothing but looking for ways to insult people.

    Thanks for proving me right again, though. ♥
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    That was fun! I'm going to take a 21 hour nap now~

  5. #85
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    This is one of the issues I have with dev’s chosen method(s) to make X jobs more ‘appealing’. They could keep job A & B fairly unique, that will attract their own ‘fanbase’. Now you have job A fans & job B fans, adding to an overall more numbers of players. Then someday, somehow they got an idea that one of them isn’t appealing enough, so their approach to ‘alleviate’ this is to… turn job B into pseudo job A but different colors? Where will the old job B’s fans going to next, if they even have any other option that tickles them the same way their beloved old job B did?

    Congrats for them to increase the playrate on job B finally, I guess? If their goal was to even out the playrate numbers between job A & B (or whichever other job mains they siphoned those numbers off from), even if it means they have to alienate the old job B fanbase? Lol…
    I'm not sure what their motivation is to change any job honestly, it's not like they actually EXPLAIN or ASK in advance, they just do whatever they feel like based on some metric known only to them.
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  6. #86
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    Eldin Valesk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I'm not sure what their motivation is to change any job honestly, it's not like they actually EXPLAIN or ASK in advance, they just do whatever they feel like based on some metric known only to them.
    Most of the times these changes get discussed in jp threads.
    Rdm ranged melee came up there, blm timers being annoying came up there, tcj getting full mobility pretty much got demanded since stromblood introduced it, ast being too complicated, as far as i know the viper changes spawned there, too
    And streamer feedback sometimes gets taken into consideration, too
    And then i guess they look at the overall performance in the recent savage fights/ultimates and look which jobs need some more and if potency changes would not be enough then job mechanics get changed. Like for example the gnb changes making it better at handling downtime by giving gnashing combo stacks, or rdm having ranged melee so it can do mechanics during burst while being forced away from the boss, or blm not dropping timer when they have no chance to maintain them because downtime/stuns etc.
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  7. #87
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    Reginald Cain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I don't think your bf clearing ultimates for you counts..

    And sure.. that's why MCH was "banned" from PF until they adjusted it because I was imagining it in my head and it was clearly not an issue. Everything was fine, and everyone was just having a bad dream.
    Let's project our insecurities on the forums together bro!
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    I'm like crit melds fine, I wonder when they'll be me mine! penta meld then i hit rewind, to watch it slot one more time and I got thit SODA!

    -Reginald Pain #1 on the fa mic, blessed with Hydaelyns might, I'll kill ya on sight... *POW*

  8. #88
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    G'milo Tia
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    Phantom
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xieldras View Post
    God forbid the fortune-teller-flavored job has RNG in it. I enjoyed it and now it's gone because those that hated the RNG couldn't stick to the other 3 Healer jobs.
    The things they did to AST over the years is absolutely criminal and reason enough that I refuse to play healer in this game.
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  9. #89
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    The developers idea of fun is that at least one quarter of the party is excluded from participating in any meaningful way in most content.
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  10. #90
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Lets be real the typical mmo player has yet to find out what fun is since all they care about is grind and reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao
    Quote Originally Posted by os12ispeak View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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