Couldnt we possibly in any way allow people to clear savage in trusts?

[Minarisweet]

I genuinely think mmos should have their own way to be played without other people as a longetivity meassure like gw1 but xiv is in the odd place where savage and ultimates are the compromise of serious content in this game since all normal content is basically built like a tutorial and giving the only semblance of serious content in this game more reasons to not be taken seriously would probably make people riot (Contrary to popular belief, raiders are the loudest complainers in this game. All balance changes are completely made for 8 man raids and all other content is an afterthought in terms of balancing to appease them).

I still think we would benefit from ways to give fights logentivity (see, unreal) but this is a complicated issue I dont think trusts would fix without a cost to pay.

[Darnath]

That's what happens when you give players a way to practice that doesn't waste other people's time. You get players that can actually hold the fight together instead of coming in and immediately wiping to everything.

This is why I love trusts being added to dungeons. Especially after the 2nd boss in Meso Terminal. Run it enough time with the trusts, learning the muscle memory to do it without being a drag on people who just want to get in and get out.

When I was a sprout and seen the Stone, Sea, and Sky at first glance I was like "Awesome! I can practice mechanics before even considering going into raids." I was PLD back then but to say I was disappointed when all it is is a goshdarn target dummy with zero mechanics would be a massive understatement. That and coming from WoW with stuff like DBM or BigWigs with callouts to let you know mechanic X was coming and how to handle to nothing, I didn't do any content until I seriously overgeared it (talking Alexander and Mhach raids until full level 70 tomestone gear) or MSQ dragged me into it.

Having trusts to practice Extreme or Savage content would seriously consider me to actually give it a try. You can watch a video until your eyes fall out. You can read a guide until everything is a blur. But for some people, doing is the best practice. And I know there's PF's that would be patient with sublevel skilled players like myself, but having trusts to practice with first before applying would be a godsend. I've mentioned in another thread how I could be n a party of pure saints but I personally would feel horrrible holding back a group with my derping.

Of course, that would require Squeenix to make trusts have more than 5 brain cells. Shame Trusts aren't as smart as WoW's Followers.

[Miradelle]

YoshiP has recently stated that the formula for MMOs in general is outdated, and that they need to start thinking outside of the box to reinvent MMOs for the modern playerbase. I think this would be one of those changes that would overall be looked in a positive light by the community. Of course, there will always be raiders that are full of themselves that will scoff at the idea that anyone else could be able to do savage. Gatekeeping savage from casual players isn't the way moving forward, if you're going to have a healthy playerbase; who will pay for your raids if we all quit? Savage raids are dreadful for me personally, and I'd really enjoy it if I could just hop into savage on my own with trusts. Just give us that don't want to waste our time learning for hours upon hours a buff to survive otherwise lethal damage, and I'd be sold on it. If people wanna do it the "hard" way (it isn't hard at all, I just don't wanna waste my time on memorizing everything), then they always have that option. Us that don't want to waste our time, and just want to get the savage tier done in a couple of hours, so that we can get the mounts and dyeable glam (that shouldn't even be locked behind savage in the first place I am still upset about the axolotl for P12S), would certainly be happier that way.

[theunhappypotato]

i think this is an awfull idea lmao

[TeresaFortell]

You might get away with older content, and even so, I tend to think that this would be most useful if you are merely using it for practising fights. For contemporary or recent content, this probably should not be applied.

[Gwenkatsu]

Us that don't want to waste our time, and just want to get the savage tier done in a couple of hours, so that we can get the mounts and dyeable glam ... , would certainly be happier that way.

You're trying to hard here.

Personally I avoid anything above MSQ level, for the simple reason that I am very bad at FF14 trial/raid mechanics, and I hate to be a burden on 7 or 23 other people. I do MSQ trials once when the game forces me to, and then never again - which of course means that I will never get better, as I don't practice.
A training ground in a realistic trial/raid scenario could be helpful - but of course without titles, achievements, glams, or w/e they hand out at the end of the real thing.

[Luluna]

I think it is a great idea and I know that might not go down well with some. I do the MSQ trial and hate it because there I am doing the story and then have to go with 7 other random players and If I am having a off day I do worry if I mess up and do not want to be a burden. I think there should be no issue adding savage and unreal to trusts it doesn't harm anyone and it would be a good way for less confident players to learn.

I did all my raiding a long time ago and do prefer to solo/duo and trusts/duty support since a lot of my friends have moved on and I am not harming anyone.

I think I should be able to get the titles and the gear it does not affect the ones who want to go in and do it with other players if I choose to use the NPC version. Some players do not have the time to go into a static or time to farm so I am hoping when Yoshi says things are changing that it includes this type of content.

[MaxWinter]

I am for this in old content and would actually attempt the content if this was added as standard raids are about as difficult as I go for content as know I would be hindering other players if attempted savage content. I completely understand why this is not a good idea for the newest savage content and groups that do this content.

[Myotis]

as i spent more hours in PF than in the ultimate i support this idea.
with limited time i could just hop in do what i feel doing and move on.

without it after a short while its just a PF long queue for stuff you want to do.

[Catwho]

I understand the frustration of not having the time to clear Savage in PF, because it's also why I stopped trying as well.

I mean, I COULD make time to do it, if I really wanted to, but the choice I made was that with the precious few hours I have in the evening after working and taking care of myself, my health, and my spouse, I'd rather do something relaxing instead of bashing my head against a brick wall.

It was an active decision. Savage isn't for me any more. And that's okay!

I don't need them to make it clearable with trusts.