Patch 7.4 MSQ was Good. Bravo.

[Veritas-Ancora]

my only issue with the msq is that i am so damn sick of ascians

I'm the polar opposite.

I'm very glad to see the Ascians back. We tried a new story with Dawntrail. It sucked. It failed.

Let's go back to what WORKS. Ascians are virtually unlimited in power and influence, and the sundered Ascians is a very interesting plotline now that the Unsundered are all gone.

I would rather play a story that continues 10+ years of my life than deal one more second with Wuk Lamat or any other derpy character that we have to help.

[RaionKansen]

Now let's hear what you think.

MSQ Story was good. I'm really excited that Halmarut is voiced by Saori Hayami.
I'm not sure why you didn't like the Arcadion Story. If you think the story made zero sense maybe you didn't pay attention to the story?
I did not find the first boss challenging. Everything is telegraphed and you just need people to hit the additional targets during that part of the encounter.

[Raikai]

Same... same...
But if deviating from "akshually it was dem darn ascians again!" means the end result is something like Dawntrail then.... I begrudingly accept the absolute non-threat, they play up, that are non-unsundered Ascians.

The problem of the Ascians is that they didn't solve every accountable seat member before "finishing" their story in Endwalker.

Not dealing with the remaining Ascians is a big plot hole because of who they are and the kind of power they wield, so either they repurpose their use into a new story (which is what it seems to be happening with this one) or just resolve them offscreen and just relay the information somehow. For example, confirming that Gaius actually found a way to deal with the two that he had masks of.

[Kaurhz]

The problem of the Ascians is that they didn't solve every accountable seat member before "finishing" their story in Endwalker.

Not dealing with the remaining Ascians is a big plot hole because of who they are and the kind of power they wield, so either they repurpose their use into a new story (which is what it seems to be happening with this one) or just resolve them offscreen and just relay the information somehow. For example, confirming that Gaius actually found a way to deal with the two that he had masks of.

To be honest, beyond a point, I think they should be resolved off screen... As there are a few unaccounted for Ascians, which could quite as easily last an entire new arc... As much as I love that side of the story, I'm not sure I'm mentally equipped for another several expansions of... "It was Ascians all along"

[Raikai]

To be honest, beyond a point, I think they should be resolved off screen... As there are a few unaccounted for Ascians, which could quite as easily last an entire new arc... As much as I love that side of the story, I'm not sure I'm mentally equipped for another several expansions of... "It was Ascians all along"

Yeah, I suppose resolved off screen is better than leaving a loose thread all the way.

I'd even say it's a good candidate for those short stories they publish once in a while.

[Zakuyia]

7.4 MSQ was a nice parenthesis.

Now, I should commend whoever wrote the Arcadion's finale. It's the second time in my life a finale has made me want to forget the whole storyline existed to begin with (the first was The Great Deceiver). Congratulations.

I know im in minority but the finale was kinda meh.....like im not gonna spoil it ofcourse but yeah i miss when actions had consequences seriously.....tho i am happy to see a certain fighter but yeah i did not enjoy it. The music was banging but m12 was also lacking jesus wtf was that fight. SE budget cut again that fight was boring af hell Howling blade and wicked thunder fight was way fucking better....M12 saved its funding for the Savage version no doubt the normal to that fight was legit snore fest.

[TeresaFortell]

Snip

If they wanted to do an actual 180, they could have invested more time into the character, so that there would be more weight to everything. Instead, that juxtaposition was placed at the near end with few dialogues. There was no buildup to it whatsoever.

[Zakuyia]

If they want to do an actual 180, they could have invested more time into the character. Instead, that juxtaposition was placed at the near end with few dialogues. No buildup to it whatsoever.

that right there is what should have happened instead they just literally.....built up a moment just to play the SAFE route with the story....like this is me not being exposed to forum i loved the arcadian up until the whole YOU THOUGHT IT WAS I Moment of the fight....yeah i was not a fan of the ending persay with a certain someone but overall Im happy i stood with a certain lalafel and im happy to see that lalafel either way that cliche point really tells me the writers were not sure how to set up the BBEG....another Hermes and Meteon moment honestly....

[Zakuyia]

To be honest, beyond a point, I think they should be resolved off screen... As there are a few unaccounted for Ascians, which could quite as easily last an entire new arc... As much as I love that side of the story, I'm not sure I'm mentally equipped for another several expansions of... "It was Ascians all along"

At this point Dawntrail shows me they were so scared to introduce new villians that they either played safe or grab something the community would latch onto and im calling it now. They are planning to redeem the ascians and make them out to not be villians but to be broken people who are just depressed about the final days.

[Catwho]

I liked 7.4 MSQ a lot.

I also liked the conclusion to The Arcadion, but I can understand why some people were disappointed with it (especially those who don't understand wrestling kayfabe to begin with.)

Brute Bomber's "miraculous recovery" was the part that stuck in my craw the most, though. Stop being afraid to kill off your characters, SE!