Trust System is ruining our game

[Miguel85NYC]

They are nerfing our dungeons so it can be Trust System "friendly"

They ruined one of my favorite dungeons "Dzemael Darkhold".
The fights were unique and fun.. now its like every other fight..

Why cant they just make another version of the dungeons just for Trust system and leave our normal dungeons alone!

[CCheshire]

Honestly, are you sure about that, my pal? I feel like nothing SE can do will get you to un-sub along with titanman and a few dedicated forum trolls, so why not add more trusts and duty support to every single dungeon and we'd still see you posting for years onwards here.

[Basteala]

They are nerfing our dungeons so it can be Trust System "friendly"

They ruined one of my favorite dungeons "Dzemael Darkhold".
The fights were unique and fun.. now its like every other fight..

Why cant they just make another version of the dungeons just for Trust system and leave our normal dungeons alone!

I can count on one hand how many people like Dzemael Darkhold, and before I met you, I couldn't even count it on one finger.

That said I do agree that trusts are overly homogenizing dungeons and it's a big problem. It'd be alright if there were optional dungeons at current level that could be more unique and difficult and part of some "proper" Expert Roulette (instead of Expert just being the most recent MSQ dungeons), but we don't have that right now.

Ironically the one time we had that at 7.0 people wouldn't stop bitching.

[SamuraiMiqo]

No, it is not. The Trust System was installed to let those who want to run the msq at their own pace and enjoy a more single player experience. Granted, it's not perfect, but it DOES help people understand mechanics in dungeons and let's players get a feel for things. Example, I liked running it in Shadowbringers because I was getting back into Tanking after having stopped doing so for over a year and allowed me to get my confidence back. Again, it's not perfect, but it's helpful, especially with how things have gotten lately with other people trolling or tearing each other down in dungeons

[Miguel85NYC]

No, it is not. The Trust System was installed to let those who want to run the msq at their own pace and enjoy a more single player experience. Granted, it's not perfect, but it DOES help people understand mechanics in dungeons and let's players get a feel for things. Example, I liked running it in Shadowbringers because I was getting back into Tanking after having stopped doing so for over a year and allowed me to get my confidence back. Again, it's not perfect, but it's helpful, especially with how things have gotten lately with other people trolling or tearing each other down in dungeons

And this is why we dont get good dungeons anymore. Their all the SAME. Kill 2 packs of trash, boss, etc..

[Kaurhz]

I am wondering how much of it is actually as a result of them needing to accommodate for trusts, and just doing a two-birds-one-stone situation, e.g., putting them in line with current design whilst also adding trust support... Like I can't see a way why these dungeons specifically would be require the rework that they did

[Jeeqbit]

I think that plenty of the changes had nothing to do with Duty Support, but rather them just wanting to "modernize" the dungeon design.

It may be hard to make NPCs click fruits, but I think they just wanted to abandon that as a concept regardless. The first room in Aurum Vale would have been fine as it was for NPCs, but it was notorious for being problematic so changes were obviously going to happen to it. Patrols would have been fine as they were even with Duty Support, they just probably thought it was annoying for them to sometimes be so far away from you. Duty Support could wait on the blue circles or purple areas in Dzemael, but again, they just wanted to remove them to "modernize" the dungeon.

Duty Support would probably struggle to drag the boss from one purple area to another, but then again, they make them move to specific places for mechanics in recent fights so as long as they make it not RNG, they can make them run to specific locations.

[bic12]

Honestly, are you sure about that, my pal? I feel like nothing SE can do will get you to un-sub along with titanman and a few dedicated forum trolls, so why not add more trusts and duty support to every single dungeon and we'd still see you posting for years onwards here.

How do I live in some people's heads rent free when I only come here once a month LMAO

As long as the money's good and the work required low (like 20 mins a day) I won't unsub though.

[Hyperia]

I gave up trying to use the trusts because all of my trust characters are stuck at level 73 and I do not have a desire to spend endless hours trying to level them up. They need a better means of leveling them or just sell a level up pack on the Mogstation.

[MicahZerrshia]

I gave up trying to use the trusts because all of my trust characters are stuck at level 73 and I do not have a desire to spend endless hours trying to level them up. They need a better means of leveling them or just sell a level up pack on the Mogstation.

Nothing like this should be put on the mogstation when we pay a real money sub and use real money to buy expansions already. We shouldn't need to level trusts up at all imo. It's really just pointless busy work.