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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyKobold View Post
    Holy over exaggeration. It's a shame y'all are so far into your own made up fantasy stories that you refuse to have a proper conversation based in reality. To pretend like Wuk is on screen more than other characters in the game is to outright lie and anyone that has actually played the game and payed attention to the story knows that.
    Dunno, people did analyse the dialogue distribution for Dawntrail and she account for around 24% of the dialogue for that expansion, having near enough triple of Erenville, who was second.

    Comparatively speaking Endwalker had Y'shtola, who had around 8% of dialogue, ShB, G'raha Tia at around 10%, Stormblood with Lyse at around 10%.. The closest is HW Alphinaud with around 20% of the dialogue
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  2. #122
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    X'lota Qi
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    I don't care if she continues to be present. I just think it's time to allow the player to decide who they hang with. The Dawn trail plot would have been great opportunity to have actual choices on who we side with, but that ship has sailed.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Dunno, people did analyse the dialogue distribution for Dawntrail and she account for around 24% of the dialogue for that expansion, having near enough triple of Erenville, who was second.

    Comparatively speaking Endwalker had Y'shtola, who had around 8% of dialogue, ShB, G'raha Tia at around 10%, Stormblood with Lyse at around 10%.. The closest is HW Alphinaud with around 20% of the dialogue
    It should also be pointed out that HW's Alphinaud had about ~1100 lines of text while Dawntrail's Wuk Lamat had ~3000, having almost 3 times the dialog boxes while barely twice the amount of words. Not only does it show how bloated the MSQ has gotten, but it might account for why it feels like such a slog talking to Wuk Lamat compared to other characters who say more with less.
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  4. #124
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    Korrcen Carr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyKobold View Post
    Random characters? Chai Nuzz is an important character throughout multiple arcs in Shadowbringers. An entire big event before a big dungeon revolves around him. Sounds like you don't actually know the story very well at all...
    Again, it took me half a year to go through the expansion. I probably don't remember everything, except for the highlights. My son takes priority over a video game. Sorry??
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    Last edited by Korrcen; 12-16-2025 at 10:19 PM.

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Dunno, people did analyse the dialogue distribution for Dawntrail and she account for around 24% of the dialogue for that expansion, having near enough triple of Erenville, who was second.

    Comparatively speaking Endwalker had Y'shtola, who had around 8% of dialogue, ShB, G'raha Tia at around 10%, Stormblood with Lyse at around 10%.. The closest is HW Alphinaud with around 20% of the dialogue
    4%? Preposterous!
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    Dawntrail is what I imagine the entire MSQ as a healer-main.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    It should also be pointed out that HW's Alphinaud had about ~1100 lines of text while Dawntrail's Wuk Lamat had ~3000, having almost 3 times the dialog boxes while barely twice the amount of words. Not only does it show how bloated the MSQ has gotten, but it might account for why it feels like such a slog talking to Wuk Lamat compared to other characters who say more with less.
    And that's not accounting for the fact Alphinaud speaks like an encyclopedy, which makes his lines twice as long as they need to be.
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 12-17-2025 at 02:00 AM.

  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    It should also be pointed out that HW's Alphinaud had about ~1100 lines of text while Dawntrail's Wuk Lamat had ~3000, having almost 3 times the dialog boxes while barely twice the amount of words. Not only does it show how bloated the MSQ has gotten, but it might account for why it feels like such a slog talking to Wuk Lamat compared to other characters who say more with less.
    I remain convinced the repetitive, bland, and bloated writing is the main problem. Earlier dialogue could crackle with energy, now it's just time consuming.
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  8. #128
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    She is absent for now.
    Yeah definitely a tantrum about her being present in the trailer for 1 or 2 seconds at best 1 or 2 quests, just... standing there and talking.

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    Dawntrail is what I imagine the entire MSQ as a healer-main.

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