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  1. #11
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    PaulusHamsteru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    Yes, but the only other option would be its one time and it would never be released again for new players over the cash shop if it didn't exist now.
    Why would that be the only other option? Other games re-run their old events.
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    Cygnia's Avatar
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    Seluine Ourran
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    Feel the same way, missed the boat on the historic Hauchefaunt horse event and others - Square Enix has no shortage of code piling up that is forever beyond the reach of players to experience, buried in some forgotten section of the files.
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  3. #13
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    CCheshire's Avatar
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    Black Tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulusHamsteru View Post
    Why would that be the only other option? Other games re-run their old events.
    FFXIV does re-run some events like ff15 and ff16 but after a while if it's too outdated they will always add it to the cash shop which ends up being the only place you can access it without that it would be gone for all new players. I ended up missing the FF13 event, but I bought the event sets much later on, which will be the fate of all old event items too.

    Also, SE wouldn't suddenly have a change of heart and sell the old rewards for gil either from past events since that would p delusional.
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  4. #14
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    Luna Winterleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alicie View Post
    to the point where it's worse than your average gacha, pulling previous event items out of mog station and letting players obtain them via in-game means once again would only be beneficial for the game.
    Exaggerating much? The Mog Station is frustrating with how much they put on their, yeah, especially with old event items getting locked behind it instead of rerunning in-game. But comparing it to gacha is a stretch. In FFXIV, you buy something and you’re guaranteed to get it. In gacha, you can drop €100 and still not hit pity, and sometimes the game balance itself pressures you to pull certain characters or weapons. That’s actual predatory design. Mog Station items are strictly cosmetic, incredibly annoying that all the good stuff goes on there, yes, but not remotely the same level of FOMO- predatory driven monetization that gacha thrives on.
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    That was fun! I'm going to take a 21 hour nap now~

  5. #15
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    Alicie Wonder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhira View Post
    Exaggerating much? The Mog Station is frustrating with how much they put on their, yeah, especially with old event items getting locked behind it instead of rerunning in-game. But comparing it to gacha is a stretch. In FFXIV, you buy something and you’re guaranteed to get it. In gacha, you can drop €100 and still not hit pity, and sometimes the game balance itself pressures you to pull certain characters or weapons. That’s actual predatory design. Mog Station items are strictly cosmetic, incredibly annoying that all the good stuff goes on there, yes, but not remotely the same level of FOMO- predatory driven monetization that gacha thrives on.
    Depending on which gacha. I played a lot of gacha where you can earn any item from gacha via in-game currency or other in-game means. So no, no exaggerations.

    Talking about PC games of course, not average mobile copypasted slop.
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  6. #16
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    Nia Niyah
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    I really hate that they do this instead of a vendor being added to events, that sells all previous rewards for a currency you can farm participating in the event
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  7. #17
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    Mayu Amakura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhira View Post
    Exaggerating much? The Mog Station is frustrating with how much they put on their, yeah, especially with old event items getting locked behind it instead of rerunning in-game. But comparing it to gacha is a stretch. In FFXIV, you buy something and you’re guaranteed to get it. In gacha, you can drop €100 and still not hit pity, and sometimes the game balance itself pressures you to pull certain characters or weapons. That’s actual predatory design. Mog Station items are strictly cosmetic, incredibly annoying that all the good stuff goes on there, yes, but not remotely the same level of FOMO- predatory driven monetization that gacha thrives on.
    This game already offers FOMO effects with "if you don't do this event, you'll have to pay for items in shop!". Already a thing. Then raiding is another thing where if you don't do it immediately, all raids will become: "[Duty complete]" as a must. So good luck there.
    Farming new fresh items and obtaining them? You better hurry to get them now, or few months later. If you come after 1 year or so, prices will skyrocket and no longer be cheap, thus you missed a chance to buy it at a low price when everybody was playing.

    Also why they like to sell stuff "per char" instead of "per account"? How is that fair? When other games offer much more support? Crazy I know.

    Trying to play with a friend but you just started? Better pay for that MSQ skip.

    Doing achievements for new trains, mounts that come from stupid train achievements of kill 2000-5000 S ranks? Better do it at start of expansion or you'll never get it since they remove multiple layers and now it's harder and harder to farm.

    Already mentioned here a lot of FOMO things about this game.
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  8. #18
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    Arkaiss Crow
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    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    [...] Then raiding is another thing where if you don't do it immediately, all raids will become: "[Duty complete]" as a must. So good luck there.
    Farming new fresh items and obtaining them? You better hurry to get them now, or few months later. If you come after 1 year or so, prices will skyrocket and no longer be cheap, thus you missed a chance to buy it at a low price when everybody was playing.
    By the same token, you can just wait a little longer and do it yourself unsync. The content isn't going anywhere.
    As for the prices, it depends on which items you're talking about... but typically yes, they become more expensive as the majority of players move on the new shiny thing and those who stay behind get to make money by supplying the market. You can do the same, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    Also why they like to sell stuff "per char" instead of "per account"? How is that fair? When other games offer much more support? Crazy I know.
    Apparently there's a limit to the amount of things one account can share across all characters (???) and they've been mostly prioritizing mounts ever since. But I agree they need to take a look at it, they'd be better off in the long run if most items, especially limited items like Matoya's Hat, could be account-wide.

    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    Trying to play with a friend but you just started? Better pay for that MSQ skip.
    I will never understand this tbh lol you can still play together...

    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    Doing achievements for new trains, mounts that come from stupid train achievements of kill 2000-5000 S ranks? Better do it at start of expansion or you'll never get it since they remove multiple layers and now it's harder and harder to farm.
    I'm not familiar with hunts, what are these layers they're removing that make these achievements harder to farm? As far as I know, trains still happen all the time, no?
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    Alaeia Redgrave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shistar View Post

    Apparently there's a limit to the amount of things one account can share across all characters (???) and they've been mostly prioritizing mounts ever since. But I agree they need to take a look at it, they'd be better off in the long run if most items, especially limited items like Matoya's Hat, could be account-wide.
    If there really is a limit thats 100% on them and they could fix it or change the number in the code. Square Enix is greedy and they want you to pay double, triple or fourfold for the same item. Or well buy 3 of the same artbook or figure to have a minion or emote on all of your characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by virianna View Post
    If there really is a limit thats 100% on them and they could fix it or change the number in the code. Square Enix is greedy and they want you to pay double, triple or fourfold for the same item. Or well buy 3 of the same artbook or figure to have a minion or emote on all of your characters.

    Yes, of course, don't get me wrong—it is on them to fix it, and we should expect it. Especially they should have never made exclusive items locked behind physical merch character-only, it's just stupid.
    I wouldn't say they're doing it out of malice, but they're not fixing it because people aren't giving them enough grief about it.
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