Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    Player
    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,128
    Character
    Mother Vain
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100

    Elemental Affinity Levels - A New Approach to Leveling

    Here's the idea to replace our linear leveling progression.

    Similar to Eureka, an elemental affinity wheel is how we level. Instead of 10 levels each expansion, we have 3-5 levels per elemental affinity.

    - Fire
    - Ice
    - Water
    - Wind
    - Earth
    Etc.

    Leveling will come naturally with the bosses we encounter. So we learn fire elemental levels from fire bosses. We learn water from water, etc.

    At the end of the MSQ, we utilize our brains to adjust to the elemental bosses for Extreme, Savage, Exploratory Missions, etc.

    So if there's a fire boss, the DPS will swap to water, and the tanks will remain fire to reduce the amount of damage done. Before the boss releases their raid wipe, everyone moves to water to take down the boss.

    There's so much more strategy involved with this, and it's simple enough that even the most casual of players could learn it.

    Plus elemental affinity levels would be easier to grind and less of a hassle than the gear slug of standard level progression.

    Any thoughts? Improvements, criticisms, etc.?
    (3)
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

  2. #2
    Player
    Jeeqbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    7,817
    Character
    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    That would be alright.

    I've also thought of bosses having elemental types but instead them being weak to specific attacks that we have, or different jobs having different elemental party offense/defense buffs they can cast to help the party overcome certain elemental strengths/weaknesses.
    (3)

  3. 12-10-2025 09:13 AM

  4. #3
    Player
    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,128
    Character
    Mother Vain
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    That gets an automatic "no thanks" from me. I'm not a fan of Field Operations, so I'd rather not borrow anything from them in the greater part of the game, leaving it instead as side content I can choose to ignore.
    So basically anything that you refuse to play is immediately dismissed as garbage?

    Okay.
    (4)

  5. #4
    Player
    DPZ2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    2,630
    Character
    Dal S'ta
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    So basically anything that you refuse to play is immediately dismissed as garbage?

    Okay.
    I wouldn't say that. It's more like "what you're requesting is part of side content already. I prefer it remain as side content." The word "garbage" appears nowhere except your interpretation.
    (1)

  6. #5
    Player
    Selsix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Old Sharlayan
    Posts
    206
    Character
    Tristan Chevrefeuille
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Here's the idea to replace our linear leveling progression.

    Similar to Eureka, an elemental affinity wheel is how we level. Instead of 10 levels each expansion, we have 3-5 levels per elemental affinity.

    - Fire
    - Ice
    - Water
    - Wind
    - Earth
    Etc.

    Leveling will come naturally with the bosses we encounter. So we learn fire elemental levels from fire bosses. We learn water from water, etc.

    At the end of the MSQ, we utilize our brains to adjust to the elemental bosses for Extreme, Savage, Exploratory Missions, etc.

    So if there's a fire boss, the DPS will swap to water, and the tanks will remain fire to reduce the amount of damage done. Before the boss releases their raid wipe, everyone moves to water to take down the boss.

    There's so much more strategy involved with this, and it's simple enough that even the most casual of players could learn it.

    Plus elemental affinity levels would be easier to grind and less of a hassle than the gear slug of standard level progression.

    Any thoughts? Improvements, criticisms, etc.?
    I can already foresee an issue with this and that's that it is independent of job level. Meaning providing all your jobs are already at 100 you play through the MSQ and now have nothing else to level, all the work is already done. You COULD mitigate this by binding elemental level to jobs rather than being separate but at that point it's effectively just a raised level cap with a fresh coat of paint.

    There is a modest intrigue in how it could affect boss fights, but unless bosses have you swapping elements on the fly very regularly (which will be very annoying with controller as is without making a quick swap binding) it's going to just be kinda useless since once everyone knows what a boss is weak to they'll just swap to that element on it forever which just adds an extra couple clicks to the start of every fight. Plus you'll run the risk of people raging in chat for stuff like alliances when people have the wrong elements on which could promote some toxic behavior.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not against a unique leveling system but I'm not sure this is it. Eureka wasn't exactly praised for the elemental wheel after all. I like where your head is going, but if they want to go outside the box like this I think we need something new built to work with the game rather than trying to repurpose an existing system.
    (2)

  7. #6
    Player
    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2021
    Posts
    1,190
    Character
    Tatanpa Nononpa
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    When I first picked up FFXIV (when post-ShB was current), I was expecting damage types to be relevant noticeable — elemental, piercing, slashing, etc.

    As a sprout CNJ, I was concerned with how I'd be able to fair against earth or wind enemies.

    Why isn't that simply how combat works in FFXIV?
    (2)

  8. Yesterday 07:13 AM

  9. #7
    Player
    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,128
    Character
    Mother Vain
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Yeah they never explain this. It's even more confusing that Black Mages uses fire against bosses made of literal fire to kill them.

    I do miss the elemental strategies of the offline Final Fantasy games. I realize that the game relies heavily on rotations that need to be mastered and making elemental affinity would cause the game to become a lot more stressful.

    Still, I think something along the lines of elemental levels would be a lot of fun to customize your character without affecting the rotations.
    (1)
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

  10. Today 01:40 PM