Elemental Affinity Levels - A New Approach to Leveling

[Veritas-Ancora]

Here's the idea to replace our linear leveling progression.

Similar to Eureka, an elemental affinity wheel is how we level. Instead of 10 levels each expansion, we have 3-5 levels per elemental affinity.

- Fire
- Ice
- Water
- Wind
- Earth
Etc.

Leveling will come naturally with the bosses we encounter. So we learn fire elemental levels from fire bosses. We learn water from water, etc.

At the end of the MSQ, we utilize our brains to adjust to the elemental bosses for Extreme, Savage, Exploratory Missions, etc.

So if there's a fire boss, the DPS will swap to water, and the tanks will remain fire to reduce the amount of damage done. Before the boss releases their raid wipe, everyone moves to water to take down the boss.

There's so much more strategy involved with this, and it's simple enough that even the most casual of players could learn it.

Plus elemental affinity levels would be easier to grind and less of a hassle than the gear slug of standard level progression.

Any thoughts? Improvements, criticisms, etc.?

[Jeeqbit]

That would be alright.

I've also thought of bosses having elemental types but instead them being weak to specific attacks that we have, or different jobs having different elemental party offense/defense buffs they can cast to help the party overcome certain elemental strengths/weaknesses.

[Aidorouge]

Similar to Eureka

That gets an automatic "no thanks" from me. I'm not a fan of Field Operations, so I'd rather not borrow anything from them in the greater part of the game, leaving it instead as side content I can choose to ignore.

[Veritas-Ancora]

That gets an automatic "no thanks" from me. I'm not a fan of Field Operations, so I'd rather not borrow anything from them in the greater part of the game, leaving it instead as side content I can choose to ignore.

So basically anything that you refuse to play is immediately dismissed as garbage?

Okay.

[DPZ2]

So basically anything that you refuse to play is immediately dismissed as garbage?

Okay.

I wouldn't say that. It's more like "what you're requesting is part of side content already. I prefer it remain as side content." The word "garbage" appears nowhere except your interpretation.

[Selsix]

Here's the idea to replace our linear leveling progression.

Similar to Eureka, an elemental affinity wheel is how we level. Instead of 10 levels each expansion, we have 3-5 levels per elemental affinity.

- Fire
- Ice
- Water
- Wind
- Earth
Etc.

Leveling will come naturally with the bosses we encounter. So we learn fire elemental levels from fire bosses. We learn water from water, etc.

At the end of the MSQ, we utilize our brains to adjust to the elemental bosses for Extreme, Savage, Exploratory Missions, etc.

So if there's a fire boss, the DPS will swap to water, and the tanks will remain fire to reduce the amount of damage done. Before the boss releases their raid wipe, everyone moves to water to take down the boss.

There's so much more strategy involved with this, and it's simple enough that even the most casual of players could learn it.

Plus elemental affinity levels would be easier to grind and less of a hassle than the gear slug of standard level progression.

Any thoughts? Improvements, criticisms, etc.?

I can already foresee an issue with this and that's that it is independent of job level. Meaning providing all your jobs are already at 100 you play through the MSQ and now have nothing else to level, all the work is already done. You COULD mitigate this by binding elemental level to jobs rather than being separate but at that point it's effectively just a raised level cap with a fresh coat of paint.

There is a modest intrigue in how it could affect boss fights, but unless bosses have you swapping elements on the fly very regularly (which will be very annoying with controller as is without making a quick swap binding) it's going to just be kinda useless since once everyone knows what a boss is weak to they'll just swap to that element on it forever which just adds an extra couple clicks to the start of every fight. Plus you'll run the risk of people raging in chat for stuff like alliances when people have the wrong elements on which could promote some toxic behavior.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against a unique leveling system but I'm not sure this is it. Eureka wasn't exactly praised for the elemental wheel after all. I like where your head is going, but if they want to go outside the box like this I think we need something new built to work with the game rather than trying to repurpose an existing system.

[AmiableApkallu]

When I first picked up FFXIV (when post-ShB was current), I was expecting damage types to be relevant noticeable — elemental, piercing, slashing, etc.

As a sprout CNJ, I was concerned with how I'd be able to fair against earth or wind enemies.

Why isn't that simply how combat works in FFXIV?

[Aidorouge]

I wouldn't say that. It's more like "what you're requesting is part of side content already. I prefer it remain as side content." The word "garbage" appears nowhere except your interpretation.

Admittedly, I don't think highly of Eureka, given I went all the way to max elemental level there and fed a potato to a cube and all the while I was still waiting for the content to become "fun" as so many people claim it to be. It just wasn't my style and found the whole thing to be personally boring.

But I can choose to just never step foot back in there to do the relic weapons/get the remaining magicite/collect logos (and BA is completely out of the question) and by extension I've chosen to skip Bozja and Occult Crescent because I can assume I won't enjoy them either. Turning an entire part of the main game into "Eureka-lite" or whatever just means I won't want to do the main game now either, and I'm probably not the only one.

I'm sure people who enjoy Field Operations (such as the OP obviously) will love having that be "the whole game" for an expansion, but for everyone else who doesn't, it just makes that expansion more skippable than Dawntrail.