What could go wrong it they put CT in MSQ roulette?

[Jeeqbit]

What would happen is we would always get the Heavensward alliance raids and then eventually get sick of those as well. Or, whichever one the majority of people in queue tend to have unlocked.

I believe far less people queue for Main Scenario roulette. Because of that, new players would struggle to fill the queue as often and struggle to progress MSQ as fast. As such, mentor roulette may begin to match you into CT, which in my experience it has never, ever done except "in progress" when someone exits and needs a refill.

[Arrius]

What would happen is we would always get the Heavensward alliance raids and then eventually get sick of those as well. Or, whichever one the majority of people in queue tend to have unlocked.

Or complain about the long ones with Nier, or the "complicated" ones like Ridorana.

[Azurarok]

I love how no one actually wants to be playing the game and only cares about getting their tasks and grinds done

[PyurBlue]

What would happen is we would always get the Heavensward alliance raids and then eventually get sick of those as well.

We have data for this. It suggests that this would not happen and that the reason for CT's overwhelming presence is only because it's forced by the MSQ. If CT was removed the alliance roulette would likely act like a random roulette:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...te_statistics/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...for_1y90_days/

Two different trials, CT heavily inflated, mid level raids more or less even, maybe a slight bias for current raids

[Kozh]

What would happen is we would always get the Heavensward alliance raids and then eventually get sick of those as well. Or, whichever one the majority of people in queue tend to have unlocked.

Idk man, I rather have that compared to having CT raid all the time.

[Moonlite]

This is amusing from the "I don't enjoy this, change it" perspective. Maybe people don't enjoy Nier raids or Ivalice raids or some other content. No matter what pops almost always see one person drop. People yell at others for not wanting to watch CS so they say "don't do it". But when it comes to something they want it is a change it.


Outside of level synch, which is a giant issue. The real problem is the raids are not even content across the history of the game. Some fight you might not even see your 2 min buff pop again and some is a slog. Some you would have to stand in the giant instant kill and some others you can get whole groups wiping. All content should be designed for a now, but also a future how does this fit in roulette older content.

[vincexorcized]

This is amusing from the "I don't enjoy this, change it" perspective. Maybe people don't enjoy Nier raids or Ivalice raids or some other content. No matter what pops almost always see one person drop. People yell at others for not wanting to watch CS so they say "don't do it". But when it comes to something they want it is a change it.


Outside of level synch, which is a giant issue. The real problem is the raids are not even content across the history of the game. Some fight you might not even see your 2 min buff pop again and some is a slog. Some you would have to stand in the giant instant kill and some others you can get whole groups wiping. All content should be designed for a now, but also a future how does this fit in roulette older content.

I nowhere said I don’t enjoy CT. The point of my post is to say: I don’t enjoy doing the same raid over and over again

Why is it always a catgirl pissing me off acting like they know everything? Can’t you damn understand the depth of the post rather than reading only the surface of it?

[Jeeqbit]

We have data for this. It suggests that this would not happen and that the reason for CT's overwhelming presence is only because it's forced by the MSQ. If CT was removed the alliance roulette would likely act like a random roulette

All I know is this:

It didn't used to be forced by MSQ. And back when it wasn't forced by MSQ, it was still usually CT. And that's why we reasoned it was just because out of 24 people, 1 of them is bound to be leveling a level 50-59 job.

In a similar way, Normal Raids roulette is almost always Fist of the Father. Because out of 8 people, the lowest level job in the matching system is probably 60-69, dragging all the higher level ones into the only raid they can be matched into.

The difference with Normal Raids roulette is you can't argue Alexander is required by the MSQ.

[Kozh]

In a similar way, Normal Raids roulette is almost always Fist of the Father. Because out of 8 people, the lowest level job in the matching system is probably 60-69, dragging all the higher level ones into the only raid they can be matched into.

The difference with Normal Raids roulette is you can't argue Alexander is required by the MSQ.

Maybe this depends on the DC, because in Elemental, Normal Raid roulette is properly distributed. It's not "always Alexander" like you said. In fact, it tends to be raid of the latest/current expac.

[RedLolly]

If the CT and Mhach raids were properly scaled, they'd both play closer to and take as much time as the Ivalice and Twelve raids. I played both series as current content and the current takes are both broken messes.

I think the complaints about the Alex raids being so common is less prevalent is simply because they're fast. The devs have mentioned years ago that they considered making Eden MSQ, meaning they want to use Gaia. It'll turn the 8-man series into an Eden farm just the same.