Are we expecting TO MUCH from 8.0?

[Valence]

I can understand wanting that but two things and I don't mean that as saying you are wrong in wanting what you want:

I think it's a bit unfair to criticize this game for doing something in a direction you personally don't like and call it slop when you want change in the broader way from Japanese games.

Sorry but I simply disagree with the notion of throwing something in the dirt just because of personal taste.
The variant dungeon is a story book and the artstyle is fitting for that I think
You can dislike it and want something else, that's fine and good but frankly you guys overdo it a bit with the negative voices and by calling it "slop" or "not good art direction".
That's simply not true and even I can see that they put thought into that artstyle. They could have easily not done anything special.

Call me white knight or such a thing (at least I kinda feel like that lately here), I don't care anymore but I think feedback should stay at least partly neutral in how it's presented.
A simple "not my taste" or "would have liked a different artstyle" would have said the same thing.
Instead we have people here calling an artstyle "slop", ask devs to be fired or go to different threads calling things copium simply because people like a trailer.

Is the artstyle childish? Yeah.
Does it fit the dungeon? Also yeah.

I am getting more and more tired of this forum because sometimes it feels like some people here actually don't want the game to get better again because then they would have nothing to complain about here anymore (though I don't include you here because you at least explained your pov).

Personally while I do share the same kind of subjective takes than the user you quoted on the current direction of the game, your points is also literally why I've abstained from commenting too much over it. At least the devs are trying something new. It's not in the direction I'd like it to go, but that's fine I guess. It's a V&C dungeon, not the main story. That's also why I'm a lot more critical about the main story for the same reasons incidentally.

The only thing I'll criticize negatively about this variant dungeon is that no, the textures are actually not good, they're blurred/pixelated to try and emulate a nintendo game but they just make me feel like I'm looking at a PS2 game. That's on the technical level.

[DiaDeem]

Oh no, my expectation is already fulfilled: 8.0 is not Dawntrail, and that's more than enough for me.

[FeyFavilla]

Oh no, my expectation is already fulfilled: 8.0 is not Dawntrail, and that's more than enough for me.

The monkey's paw curls inward.
Wuk Lamat is the new WoL and we have to babysit her all throughout the next expansion, the MSQ is only cutscenes between walking segments, the dungeons have no special mechanics and are one corridor to make trusts perfect and easy to code and the jobs all have 50 buttons that do the same thing.

[TBerry]

Probably.
But uif they deliver on the story and jobs, I won't complain.

[RedLolly]

Wuk Lamat this. Wuk Lamat that.

Did none of you notice that she was completely absent from the 7.4 trailer? Instead we're gallivanting with Sphene.

[Maltothoris]

Wuk Lamat this. Wuk Lamat that.

Did none of you notice that she was completely absent from the 7.4 trailer? Instead we're gallivanting with Sphene.

She actually appears for a little bit in the trailer. It's at 1:03 next to Erenville and when they are meeting a hrothgar and a mamook. Of course she is now very much in the background. Personally, I would of liked this patch where she wouldn't of appeared at all cause I know dang well shes going to appear in 7.5 tp give some sappy farewell speech about how much we helped and teached her etc etc. I'm not saying she'll play a big part but to say she's completely absent is also wrong to say.

Edit: I admit I am being very pedantic here. It is a very small detail but admittedly I think it's foolhardy she wouldn't appear as long as we are still in Tural.

[Daralii]

She actually appears for a little bit in the trailer. It's at 1:03 next to Erenville and when they are meeting a hrothgar and a mamook. Of course she is now very much in the background. Personally, I would of liked this patch where she wouldn't of appeared at all cause I know dang well shes going to appear in 7.5 tp give some sappy farewell speech about how much we helped and teached her etc etc. I'm not saying she'll play a big part but to say she's completely absent is also wrong to say.

Edit: I admit I am being very pedantic here. It is a very small detail but admittedly I think it's foolhardy she wouldn't appear as long as we are still in Tural.

Aymeric was the de facto leader of Ishgard for most of 3.X and I don't remember him being a permanent fixture outside of politicking. Lyse is similar, where I don't remember her being involved apart from 4.1 and 4.5.

[Xieldras]

Wuk Lamat this. Wuk Lamat that.

Did none of you notice that she was completely absent from the 7.4 trailer? Instead we're gallivanting with Sphene.

Wuk seems to be next to us in a shot of the trailer. Doesn't she have a country to run? Why is she still with us?

[Kozh]

Wuk Lamat this. Wuk Lamat that.

Did none of you notice that she was completely absent from the 7.4 trailer? Instead we're gallivanting with Sphene.

Wuk is like stinky garbage. Even if you remove it, the smells will linger for a while.

[RedLolly]

Wuk is like stinky garbage. Even if you remove it, the smells will linger for a while.

Sphene must be such a good air freshener that I didn't even notice the crap still there.