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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazren View Post
    I've noticed there are a LOT more YPYT nuts on NA, they are practically nonexistant on EU
    We can get into this issue on another long, drawn out thread yet again somewhere else, but for me if I am tanking, it's not an ego problem - you're actually fucking with my rotation, my sprint times, and the usual jackwagons that do this aren't running back to me. Oh no, we have to run in circles and away from me like this is another WoW game.
    If you want to pull and bring it to the tank, not a problem. But that's not how it goes 99% of the time, and that can mess tanks up. If you are going to pull mobs, then FFS - take them to the tank. Don't stand there getting beat on. Don't run away. Don't keep running to the wall, because you've already screwed up my sprint from the last time you did the same thing.
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  2. #22
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Over the years, one thing that is very easy to notice is that damage in roulettes is higher in EU and it's not even remotely close. NA are far more casual about damage dealing and don't pressure eachother to be extremely sweaty at rotations and gearing. Everything melts in EU in ways it doesn't in 10 years of doing roulettes in NA. While there are casual players in EU I feel like they get socially pressured way more to play well.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Over the years, one thing that is very easy to notice is that damage in roulettes is higher in EU and it's not even remotely close. NA are far more casual about damage dealing and don't pressure eachother to be extremely sweaty at rotations and gearing. Everything melts in EU in ways it doesn't in 10 years of doing roulettes in NA. While there are casual players in EU I feel like they get socially pressured way more to play well.
    That is not true at all. They are higher because they can play together and not be pressured by some DPS with chronic main character syndrome to speedrun everything.
    Don't project.
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    Dawntrail is what I imagine the entire MSQ as a healer-main.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    Don't project.
    I don't understand what you think I am projecting about. It is merely an observation I have made every single time I have played in EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't understand what you think I am projecting about. It is merely an observation I have made every single time I have played in EU.
    I never felt any pressure from anyone. I only pressuere myself.
    But please do tell me more about my Roulette experience.
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    Dawntrail is what I imagine the entire MSQ as a healer-main.

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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    For example the A(dds), B(elly), C(hain) rule for the Cerberus in Crystal Tower. At least I never saw people doing it.
    We have that on Aether. We just generally let any dps go inside since it doesn't need to be limited to just B's. And someone always goes for a chain so it doesn't necessarily need to be C. Main problem is a tank not grabbing adds sometimes, especially if the A tank is already MT. So in our case it's more that we know what needs to be done and so long as someone does it, we don't really care who it is.

    A common joke for us in alliance chat is A - all in the belly, B - belly belly belly, C - come into the belly
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    We have that on Aether. We just generally let any dps go inside since it doesn't need to be limited to just B's. And someone always goes for a chain so it doesn't necessarily need to be C. Main problem is a tank not grabbing adds sometimes, especially if the A tank is already MT. So in our case it's more that we know what needs to be done and so long as someone does it, we don't really care who it is.

    A common joke for us in alliance chat is A - all in the belly, B - belly belly belly, C - come into the belly
    Yeah, that's how we do it on Crystal too. Joke macro included.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    I never felt any pressure from anyone. I only pressuere myself.
    But please do tell me more about my Roulette experience.
    Maybe many people in EU pressure themselves as well, but in the relatively smaller number of times I've done roulettes in EU I've seen more rude and critical behaviour than in 10 years of doing roulettes in NA.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Maybe many people in EU pressure themselves as well, but in the relatively smaller number of times I've done roulettes in EU I've seen more rude and critical behaviour than in 10 years of doing roulettes in NA.
    If everyone you play with on EU is an asshole, you're the problem.
    Have you actually tried to see how how dungeon runs work there?

    In my 5 years on Chaos I can count the amount of terrible runs on one hand.
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    Last edited by TBerry; 12-04-2025 at 11:18 PM.
    Dawntrail is what I imagine the entire MSQ as a healer-main.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    If everyone you play with on EU is an asshole, you're the problem.
    They aren't rude to me. I am referring to that I have seen them attack others in the duty for x, y or z. I'm a pretty silent observer myself. A lot of it was attacking people for damage in 8-person duties, but there was a time I was leveling a healer and they berated the poor (returner) tank the entire dungeon and I felt deeply uncomfortable and sickened by what I saw them say to someone that had obviously not been playing for ages.
    Have you actually tried to see how how dungeon runs work there?
    In many cases they have tried to run ahead of me when I'm tanking because they want to speedrun and don't value the tank particularly, but I keep pace because I speedrun anyway. At best, they keep slightly behind me but keep up with me very well. Majority of my NA memories are of people way behind me. That's really all I notice other than things dying faster in many cases.

    So my point is that, on average, more EU players seem more interested in playing well and that is likely part of the explanation for OP's experience.
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