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  1. #31
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    I'm all for more animation options. Locking them doesn't make sense and feels immersion breaking in the first place since there aren't many major differences between races.
    Counter-suggestion: Make more differences between races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Counter-suggestion: Make more differences between races.
    For real. The race variety is one of the weakest points of the game. The last thing they should be doing is making them less unique.
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    Then they can make races remain unique, but atleast add multiple styles of running/walking that we can choose per race.
    Nobody feels this worst than fem middie because the dainty running cycle doesn't really fit something like a tank or a dps
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  4. #34
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Counter-suggestion: Make more differences between races.
    As in physical differences? I can't see why anything else would prevent shared animations logically. That would mean character appearances would change though, which I don't think would be a good idea considering that quite a few people were drawn to the existing characteristics of their characters already.

    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    For real. The race variety is one of the weakest points of the game. The last thing they should be doing is making them less unique.
    I can't see universal animations as a loss in uniqueness. If anything it's the opposite since it allows for more pairings of physical appearance and mannerisms.

    Race variety is great but it should make sense rather than be a collection of rules that have no reason to be, which I think is a fair description of race based animations. Stuff like the lalafell exclusive buildings make a little more sense (and I say only a little because the other races can fit inside) but that is a case where size difference matters.

    More exclusive features along those lines would be much better in my opinion. Say if a region was largely populated with Miqote that were hostile to outsiders, a Miqote character would have more dialogue options.
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  5. #35
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    More exclusive features along those lines would be much better in my opinion. Say if a region was largely populated with Miqote that were hostile to outsiders, a Miqote character would have more dialogue options.
    Agree with that.
    The dwarves in Shb with the buildings only Lalas could enter was a good example.
    I really don't know why they did away with that.

    Tbh lately it seems like they completely regret ever making different races because frankly they don't seem to put any true effort into them anymore.
    Most cities are full of Hyur (I think Solution 9 doesn't even have Au'ra), they seem to have completely disregarded anything related to Moonkeeper lore and gear more and more deletes racial features.

    I would like more racial "specialness", if only in little things like emotes actually moving Miqo'te ears or additional dialogue like in your example.
    When was actually the last time Miqo'te ears and tails were used to show emotions?

    I don't mind gender unlocking but I actually also think racial things should stay exclusive like the original emotes that still had differences between races (stretch for example) or the run animations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    I can't see universal animations as a loss in uniqueness. If anything it's the opposite since it allows for more pairings of physical appearance and mannerisms.

    Race variety is great but it should make sense rather than be a collection of rules that have no reason to be, which I think is a fair description of race based animations.
    We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I don't think it's a good thing to make the game even more of a homogenized bland soup than it already is. The playable races are barely different from one another to begin with, removing one of the few things that genuinely separates them and gives them a unique identity would be a great loss IMO.
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  7. #37
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    100% in favour of being able to change animations in character creation, every race/gender being stuck with the one personality has always bothered me
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    Arkaiss Crow
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    Quote Originally Posted by XtremePrime View Post
    Then they can make races remain unique, but atleast add multiple styles of running/walking that we can choose per race.
    Nobody feels this worst than fem middie because the dainty running cycle doesn't really fit something like a tank or a dps

    I'm pulling up to the dungeon in my frilly dress with my princess run animation and doing only W2W pulls with no stops. B)
    But yes, ultimately I agree lol I chose middie specifically because I like the animations and find them funny/cute, but it'd be nice to be able to choose between 2-3 different "personalities" for idles, running animation and basic emotes.


    If anything, I'd expect a lot of different combos to start appearing if it was unlocked. I don't think I'd change my middie much, but I enjoy the femelezen basic idle. I think having to make new in-between animations so it looks smooth when you're going from viera idle to a middie emote after your au ra run would be a pain, though...
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  9. #39
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    Giddy Moonshine
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    I’ve thought about this for a bit after having that knee-jerk reaction of feeling like copying animations from other races would be stupid because it would destroy the identity of the race.

    However.

    It is true that the female races are either portrayed as dainty flowers or muscle mommies, and I am not a fan of either. I like how female Highlanders look, but I hate that their standard stance makes it seem like they are looking for someone to beat up.

    So yes, please. I would like to have options. I want customization for the animations. At least I would like options that are not feeding into radical stereotypes.
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    You guys saying changing animations it would homogenize, play ESO or Warframe a bit.

    Racial animations would just be the starting animations.
    Then there would be more unlockable animations. It could have different categories, like walking style and personality.

    In ESO, for example, personality changes how idle behavior, running style, how some emotes play out. Like the Angry personality makes you character not only showing an angry face all the time but it also makes you, for no good reason randomly family-friendly curse. While the jester personality makes you walk like a clown and run in really comedic way.
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