Post Your Complete Garuda Weapon Set!

[Ruri]

It actually doesn't piss me off at all haha. I find it extremely entertaining the lengths people have to go to to actually accomplish successful endgame content in this game. As a matter of fact I was watching a popular livestream earlier (I will leave the streamer anonymous for privacy sake) and they were BLM burning Garuda. One of the members in their group said verbatim "Guys we need to farm this as much as possible since this is a limited time strat!"

I literally pooped my pants because I was laughing so hard.

Now I am embarrassed

I believe I know who your talking about if they are on Gungnir.

[ShadowWolf]

As, I cant Condem Starlord by his comment, I would like to add this to it:

IF the patch comes out, AND you can no longer Burn Garuda with enough blm damage, to Skip the middle phase, Where she warps around the screen and goes straight into the rotating sand plumes, as you walk clockwise (see BG video), Does that (even though they were playing to best of their ability, and if that meant it surpassed a phase due to lack of restrictions/structure "Completely on the Dev team shoulders") Does this not mean the following will be true:

1: BG as a well formed team, Put out great damage resulting in partial exploint Unaware to them or developers, and thus resulted in a Win early, though most rightly deserved than expected.

2: The resulting patch "may or may not" now restrict it, to where "astral flow" whatever you wish to call it, will now result faster, thus negating the ability to skip any phase. forcing all to experience all three (if you wanna break it down farther fine by me) phases, result in negative feedback toward the dev's about their mistake.

NOW before you flame. I am not saying BG exploited anything, but if the resulting patch negates the ability to skip a phase anything pre-patch, "known or unknown" would be DEV TEAM error, and not those who were succesful, but still none the less, a win by error, not a win per the intended form they hoped to design it to be. BG i am sure was on the top of many minds to be first to take down garuda. And if by their win, and the resulting exploit of thier original win strat, which im more than willing to say was based off of BG's win. (3bmls, skipped a phase, what would 5 do...) has shown the way to "fix dev error's" then BG stands as Original win in my book.

WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THE ABOVE SAYS, BG won by skill, Their Strat was exploited (3blms skipped a phase, what would 5 double/trip melded + Elixers do....) , and now there will be a patch. If you can no longer skip a phase by a little more DD with three BLMs, GREAT!!! the price of all that tripple melded blm gear and INT materia might come down much less the 60k per elixer... cause now even the guys wearing all AF will eventually get to same place with teamwork!!

[Richard_BG]

Yoshida should really just give let us QA for them on pre-patch content so they don't have to go back and fix all these poorly designed mechanics that people love to exploit. We'd do it totally pro bono.

HEAR MY PLEA YOSHIDA

[Rydin]

Yoshida should really just give let us QA for them on pre-patch content so they don't have to go back and fix all these poorly designed mechanics that people love to exploit. We'd do it totally pro bono.

HEAR MY PLEA YOSHIDA

You mean this:

The problem is... the testers never catch... well... anything...

Give the fight to BG or Daeva or Legacy for a week.... Or even one of the hardcore JP linkshells... Give them incentives for finding the exploits or cheesy ways to win...

[Kikosho]

if it wasn't an exploit, and it just boiled down to player ingenuity taking battle content designers by surprise, yoshi would have just commented on how surprised they were by player strategy.

however, what actually happened was yoshi himself acknowledged a design flaw in garuda's AI in calculating HP before using aerial blast. we can prove this two easy ways: first, there's no way to skip astral flow in moogle or ifrit fights. second, we can see examples of garuda's calculation of remaining HP influencing battle mechanics both in pushing her down fast enough that she skips second plumes phase and goes straight to the third, and in pushing her down fast enough that she skips phase 2 after aerial blast. perhaps you haven't experienced the latter since you're blm burning it

the fact that being successful with blm burn strategy requires working around her HP calculation check for 2nd plumes so that you can skip an obviously required element of the fight (aerial blast) is exploitative, no matter how you slice it.

i'm pretty sure that they have never in the history of this game hotfixed content just to make it more difficult. considering how many casual players play ffxiv, doing something like that would cause a shitstorm.

contagion bug @ ifrit? exploit. hotfixed.
DoL wrist flick stunlock @ ifrit? exploit. hotfixed.
die/reraise hate reset strat @ moogle? exploit. hotfixed.

and now, there's this. so.

There is no set amount of plumes in Phase 1 just so you know. Not sure if they will spawn indefinitely as long as her HP is above 60%~ but more can spawn. I figured since you guys kill it enough you'd notice that the "third plume set" (her Aerial Blast set) only happens when she's below 60%. It is the "infernal nails" of this fight and it's the part of the fight that isn't working as intended.

My point earlier was that phase skipping is the BLM zerg but toned down. Get her to 40% or less during the last plume set and she'll skip Phase 2 since 40% is the third phase trigger (what you guys do). Push the DPS further and you just kill her outright (what BLM zerg does). If she does have an auto Aerial Blast at a certain % like Ifrit's Hellfire then that's clearly what's not working. And the moogle fight's Memento functions completely different so it's not an equal comparison. The entire first half of that fight is "infernal nails". But you are right, the devs didn't mean for us to skip Aerial Blast but I'm sure phase skipping falls in the same category.

@TheReal22Doppleganger: Moogle was cheap. Got awarded for sucking. Nuff said about that. I am in agreement with you in regards to why they are patching it, to make the fight function properly.

[Squiggles]

People really shouldn't flame for this. It's not hurting anyone else after all. I just wouldn't expect too many congrats.

nor should they congratulate it. shameless epeen threads are a waste of space

[Isaaru]

lol hello exploiter

BLM burn is faster than normal strategy, nothing wrong with being time efficient.

[Richard_BG]

BLM burn is faster than normal strategy, nothing wrong with being time efficient.

except the part about intentionally exploiting the fight mechanics for pure profit. yeah nothing wrong with that at all.

except...

there is something wrong with it. and its getting patched because it's not working as intended.

[Isaaru]

except the part about intentionally exploiting the fight mechanics for pure profit. yeah nothing wrong with that at all.

except...

there is something wrong with it. and its getting patched because it's not working as intended.

Ok well then my LS will go back to killing it the normal way again once it's patched... You guys are taking this way too seriously.

[Richard_BG]

vidya gaemin is srs bsns dnt u no?