We don't need them anymore.

[Burmecia]

Talking about wintrading is pretty pointless: the glamours were exclusive to the veterans despite it having happened - until they weren't.

Same with White Ravens (for 1.0 players who did the quest/grind) and preorder earrings (for people who paid rl money). Guess the difference is that no one kept parroting "yes yes no one will ever have these again" - until something changed.

Random commen from Reddit which caught my eye yesterday:
(Discussion about this article: Link)

"They just changed their CEO not long ago, and he has instituted a 3 year plan to reform the company. Latest earnings report claims they will be shifting from product-out approach to market-in approach (focusing on whatever market want instead of what they want to make). Will that change things?"

I know they're talking about new projects mainly. But ff14 isn't negligible older project yet. Maintaining it's dwindling popularity by same philosophy doesn't seem impossibly far fetched. In other words, stopping people from dropping ff14 by giving us what vast majority wants should be second best scenario, where luring new people in is the best.
Will those statue emotes arrive to Mogstation next?

Anyway, #SquareEnix, I would like to give you money for Cait Sith minion next, thank you!

[Catwho]

I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened already. Not everybody wants the physical merchandise (assuming a given piece is even still available), but they would gladly pay for the emotes and minions that come attached to them.

At least its just emotes. FFXI had a Leviathan pendant that came with the ability to teleport yourself and your whole party directly to an endgame zone (Nashmau) that otherwise took a ferry that only ran every 15 minutes. I can't remember how much I paid for it, but the outcry was enormous because it was.... not a very well made pendant. It was silver plated pewter on a plastic strap. You were paying $100 for a friggin teleport.

(I still have the pendant. I put it on a better strap though.)

[CCheshire]

At least its just emotes. FFXI had a Leviathan pendant that came with the ability to teleport yourself and your whole party directly to an endgame zone (Nashmau) that otherwise took a ferry that only ran every 15 minutes. I can't remember how much I paid for it, but the outcry was enormous because it was.... not a very well made pendant. It was silver plated pewter on a plastic strap. You were paying $100 for a friggin teleport.

(I still have the pendant. I put it on a better strap though.)

Well we have a $400 emote that tells everyone in LL that you're bad with money that came with a free statue too.

[TomsYoungerBro]

What's the problem with more people having access to the item? It's not being taken away from you.

Protip before you invest years of your life into a videogame: You are not owed nor entitled to a single thing just because you play a game for a long time.

These arguments can also be used on you: You are not owed nor entitled to a single thing just because you didn't get to play the game a long time ago. What's the problem with people not having access to the item? It's just a game.

[Kelg]

The problem here is they made make some of the coolest sets in the game FOMO, tied to pvp, and only given to 100 people per data center. I couldn't come up with a bigger waste of dev resources if I tried. They can give the people who won these sets a unique title instead and that would be okay. Like, I don't see why this bothers you. People didn't complain when they gave out the Goobbue mount to everyone when it was previously given out to legacy 1.0 members only. Besides, you will still have the non-replica version, which is a rare item.

[Valence]

The problem is that the top players have already been rewarded with titles and plates since S1 of CC - wanna see how they do occupy over 100 slots of portrait options in certain categories? That's not what keeps top players playing. Why was the last season so active? Because they introduced new unique titles/plates tied to the introduction of Omega and Ultima ranks. Now that they got what they wanted? Current season is absolutely dead.

Honestly the way this MMO community works it feels that having rewards for each level of skill beyond casual could solve a lot of the activity issues on western DCs. The point of contention is the FOMO, which is why those old rewards are a source of friction. Having rewards to work toward baked for example behind commendation crystals would do a lot already. Having others that you can get by reaching top 100, etc, could also work, as long as they're not FOMO and like an ultimate title everybody can work toward them at any time.

[Boofals]

Absolutely. They don't stop moaning and screaming for stuff they can't have till the Devs bend over.

Mate, he was also talking about you here. Did that just go completely over your head?

[ForteNightshade]

Yep. I'm with you on this one

I also own both the Lone Wolf & Eaglebeak sets and the former has been my main glam ever since I got it. I've never unsubscribed.

The ranked feast sets were advertised as exclusive and limited time only, and specifically because of that, I knew it was the only chance to earn the outfit I wanted

So I also put in those hours dying of torture and grinding to land in that top 100 to win it... for what? Memed by yoshi p again? It's not exclusive like I was told and I just got pranked again? thanks for the waste of time

This type of logic is always funny to me. What you earned was having those rewards for nearly a decade despite literally everything else in the game eventually becoming easier.

If your sole motivation for obtaining them was the fact no one else could have them, I doubt you'll have much sympathy. And I say that as someone with several exclusive stuff that I also wouldn't care if it became available to everyone else. Now I don't think it should be a complete hand out, just not exclusive.

[BlisteringFrost]

This type of logic is always funny to me. What you earned was having those rewards for nearly a decade despite literally everything else in the game eventually becoming easier.

If your sole motivation for obtaining them was the fact no one else could have them, I doubt you'll have much sympathy. And I say that as someone with several exclusive stuff that I also wouldn't care if it became available to everyone else. Now I don't think it should be a complete hand out, just not exclusive.

Just make the rewards permanently accessible but you still have to do the same (or similar) content to get them. You want old FEAST rewards? Start doing ranked then.

Titles and Customizables for your adventure plates / portraits acquired via ranks should be removed from your account dynamically (automatically) based on whether you're still actually the rank required to have earned them or not. Literally every other MMO in the world does this for Ranked rewards to heavily incentivize continuing doing it. Keeps everybody shifting. And it's not FOMO because it's all there ready for you to go get it.

[cutestfox]

This type of logic is always funny to me. What you earned was having those rewards for nearly a decade despite literally everything else in the game eventually becoming easier.

If your sole motivation for obtaining them was the fact no one else could have them, I doubt you'll have much sympathy. And I say that as someone with several exclusive stuff that I also wouldn't care if it became available to everyone else. Now I don't think it should be a complete hand out, just not exclusive.

The reward was not advertised as "win an exclusive glam for 10 years!"
The reward was clear: place top 100 and you can have this outfit if you want it and there's no other opportunity, so you need to do this now

I wanted it, so I went through hell to get it. I wouldn't have bothered if I knew I could just kick the can down the road and not bother with the torture of ranked pvp on 280ms ping

I played by their rules, I did what they wanted, and now they've gone back on their word and I'm annoyed about it. I didn't have to do any of that at all it seems like.
Is it really so wrong for me to be annoyed by it?