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    DaKitten's Avatar
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    Ai Aely
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    Pictomancer Lv 100

    This is not a DDOS, Tell the truth SE.

    A DDOS in pretty much all scenarios is a consistent denial of service attack, if it were happening it would not be as inconsistent as this "DDOS" is.

    Even with DDOS protection in place, it would still not be this inconsistent.

    This is a server overload or server hardware issue, I'm not buying the excuse.

    Please fix the actual problem.
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  2. #2
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    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I just got booted out of the game, this is the final server error for me today.

    It's fun paying a monthly sub for a game that keeps kicking you out.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    They did outright lie about their system dropping people during Endwalker's release being the fault of people's connections and not their queue system (as found out during wireshark analysis), so not like they've been shown to be 100% honest.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Every DDoS is a spy vs spy game with the bad guys.

    They attack, you put in a countermeasure, they circumvent that and continue the attack, you circumvent that, and the cycle continues.

    Unless you want to implement some rather draconian privacy violations to make sure that attacks such as this are traced back to everybody involved and punished, we have to accept that there will be disruptions.
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  5. #5
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    Macchi Ato
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    Facts in support of DDOS:
    - WoW just introduced a premium currency and a lot of people are upset. Usually, a DDOS coincides with bad news in WoW.
    - A lot of bots got banned, so the bot owners are taking it out on FFXIV.
    - We correctly deduced that "other" countries like Malaysia, Philippines, etc. were behind last year's DDOS due to the payment processor change. Maybe they're still having trouble paying their subs?

    Facts in support of server overload:
    - FFXIV is still the world's most popular MMO with over 30 million players (WoW, in comparison, only has around 3 million). We know that Square Enix did not anticipate FFXIV being this popular.
    - A lot of people are running the new deep dungeon (if the game world feels empty, this is why).
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    Will Irishclover
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    They did outright lie about their system dropping people during Endwalker's release being the fault of people's connections and not their queue system (as found out during wireshark analysis), so not like they've been shown to be 100% honest.
    I wouldn't consider this a lie but more Occams Razor, the statement they made was they outright didin't know this issue existed until dedicated players tracked it down, This is more damaging to them than it being a lie.
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Facts in support of DDOS:
    - WoW just introduced a premium currency and a lot of people are upset. Usually, a DDOS coincides with bad news in WoW.
    - A lot of bots got banned, so the bot owners are taking it out on FFXIV.
    - We correctly deduced that "other" countries like Malaysia, Philippines, etc. were behind last year's DDOS due to the payment processor change. Maybe they're still having trouble paying their subs?

    Facts in support of server overload:
    - FFXIV is still the world's most popular MMO with over 30 million players (WoW, in comparison, only has around 3 million). We know that Square Enix did not anticipate FFXIV being this popular.
    - A lot of people are running the new deep dungeon (if the game world feels empty, this is why).
    That would point only in the direction of DDOS, since the two "points" made in favor of a server overload aren't accurate. The "30 million players" number is the total number of accounts that have been registered over the lifetime of the game, not the actual number of *active* accounts. WoW's number (which is closer to 2 million) is the number of *active* WoW accounts. FFXIV is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 750k-1 million at this point in time. In a similar fashion, we're in the typical population "trough" at this point in the expansion's life cycle, so even with specific bits of new content coming out (e.g. deep dungeon), the overall population is well below what it is at "peak" times in the cycle. It's non-sensical that server overload would be to blame.
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  8. #8
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    Blistering Frost
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Facts in support of DDOS:
    - WoW just introduced a premium currency and a lot of people are upset. Usually, a DDOS coincides with bad news in WoW.
    - A lot of bots got banned, so the bot owners are taking it out on FFXIV.
    - We correctly deduced that "other" countries like Malaysia, Philippines, etc. were behind last year's DDOS due to the payment processor change. Maybe they're still having trouble paying their subs?

    Facts in support of server overload:
    - FFXIV is still the world's most popular MMO with over 30 million players (WoW, in comparison, only has around 3 million). We know that Square Enix did not anticipate FFXIV being this popular.
    - A lot of people are running the new deep dungeon (if the game world feels empty, this is why).
    Fact check yourself.

    This is horribly WRONG.
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    Shipp Atori
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    Goblin
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    I have trouble believing it's a DDoS for the simple fact that everytime people drop, it's always the same people kicked and the same people not affected. That seems more like some type of ISP issue or something else other than a DDoS on the game itself.
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    Blistering Frost
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    I have trouble believing it's a DDoS for the simple fact that everytime people drop, it's always the same people kicked and the same people not affected. That seems more like some type of ISP issue or something else other than a DDoS on the game itself.
    Got DC'd last night but generally no problems outside of that one-off incident this week. It couldn't ever possibly be anything else but a DDOS though, riiiiiight?

    DDOS' are universal. It's not "like 2 people are fine" because they wouldn't be fine. It nukes the entire server. Some people just can't get a grip.
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