I think the hoards feel worse than ever. While yes, in previous DD they could also give junk, I feel like 99% of the time I'm just getting potions and the new sacramental junk I don't want or need. There's a little too much RNG for my liking considering it takes 15-20 minutes to do early floors and up to 40 minutes for higher floors, the rewards should feel more.. well, rewarding for the time you spent in it. But then checking 8 hoards getting 5 potions, 3 lilies and one music roll is not my idea of rewarding, sorry to say.