How are you liking Pilgrims Traverse?

[MicahZerrshia]

To me it feels like the dull same ol same ol. It has none of the innovation I felt was promised and it relys really heavily on cheap, fast one shot mechanics. 3/10 at best. Not fun in the least, esp past floor 50. Not even going to bother with the trial.

The devs reliance on the aforementioned cheap one shot mechanics to create artificial difficulty is not good design. It's actually embarrassing for devs that used to be at the caliber of the SE devs of the past.

[Rayne6665]

I never reach floor 50 in PoTD lol so I wouldn't know what Pilgrims Traverse Deep Dungeon is like lmao

[Mesarthim]

I got bodied two times by the floor 10 boss solo, until I understood its "gotcha" mechanic.

This is my life now until 8.0 I guess. I don't run them like a zealot but I do have the other three solo titles. Actually I wonder what the new one is... "The Enlightened"

[Valence]

To me it feels like the dull same ol same ol. It has none of the innovation I felt was promised and it relys really heavily on cheap, fast one shot mechanics. 3/10 at best. Not fun in the least, esp past floor 50. Not even going to bother with the trial.

The devs reliance on the aforementioned cheap one shot mechanics to create artificial difficulty is not good design. It's actually embarrassing for devs that used to be at the caliber of the SE devs of the past.

I haven't done it yet. You'd say it's more like Orthos then, mechanically/gameplay?
And if so (I hope not), nice to hear that they obviously don't listen to any feedback then...

[AvoSturmfaust]

I haven't done it yet. You'd say it's more like Orthos then, mechanically/gameplay?
And if so (I hope not), nice to hear that they obviously don't listen to any feedback then...

To be honest, im not sure about that, im not so far yet (Stage 40) and didnt encounter one single "one shot attack" so from the feel and the monster on your way, it feels more then PotD

[MicahZerrshia]

To be honest, im not sure about that, im not so far yet (Stage 40) and didnt encounter one single "one shot attack" so from the feel and the monster on your way, it feels more then PotD

After 50 is when it gets just really annoying, before 50 its not so bad, more like regular DD. I already have an aetherpool in the 90s and there have been plenty of 1 shot attacks from regular mobs and most of the one shots allow for very little reaction time so if you are not already in place before the attack goes out, its a 1 shot. Which, like I said, is a cheap way to create artificial difficulty. Made the whole things more annoying than anything.

[Valence]

It's more like the old deep dungeons instead of EO.
I have only cleared the story part but the enemies are not damage sponges and have no real one hit kill moves. Even without upgraded gear they are all easy to defeat.
The bosses till then are also forgiving in the damage they do.
It seems mostly comparable to HoH in that aspect.


So far I kinda like it.
It's nice to have a good looking deep dungeon for a change given how much time we spend there.
It gives some interesting background story for the first as well and includes the more "scary" part of the fae as well.
Pomanders are... well basically the same as always sadly, though the candle-thingies are kinda fun in what they do.
Though I haven't found out where you get the currency for the hairstyle till now (I guess the big boss at the end?).
Music over all also seems to have more unique tracks / remixes then the DD before imo.

All in all:
If you like deep dungeons then you will like this one and if not your opinion won't change, though in my opinion it seems to be one of the better ones and is by far better than EO already.
They could have done more new things quite frankly, for example not pomanders again but so far I would tell people to give it a go for the lore alone.
Personally I look forward to doing the deeper floors now that I don't need a fixed party for that anymore, though I don't know how feasible that is with pomanders resetting.

I see, thanks. I guess I'll have to make my own opinion on it, but I think I'll probably share yours. They seemingly tried at first to address the difficulty access and audience criteria from the mode itself (more checkpoints of access, more difficulty levels for the last trial, etc) than truly shake up the content with brand new ideas, which is a bit sad but oh well.

After 50 is when it gets just really annoying, before 50 its not so bad, more like regular DD. I already have an aetherpool in the 90s and there have been plenty of 1 shot attacks from regular mobs and most of the one shots allow for very little reaction time so if you are not already in place before the attack goes out, its a 1 shot. Which, like I said, is a cheap way to create artificial difficulty. Made the whole things more annoying than anything.

That's very sad to hear then. So before 50 we have something close to PotD and HoH, but after 50 it's more like EO? That's disheartening to read.

[MicahZerrshia]

That's very sad to hear then. So before 50 we have something close to PotD and HoH, but after 50 it's more like EO? That's disheartening to read.

Yeah, overall it wouldn't be that bad if not for the sudden one shot moves they added to so many mobs on high floors. I mean its still leaning toward the more boring side, its a better alternative than running the same dungeons again and again in roulettes, but that doesn't say much since it is already just as repetitive but more frustrating due to the choices they made. Really wish we could have just leveled up in OC instead so we could kill 2 birds with 1 stone. This game overall just needs more ways to level and while I understand it's not an easy thing to make leveling something that isn't tedious, they really need to experiment more. Copy/pasted PotD/EO merger with a couple new things thrown in does not feel it.

[SkankyRoe]

ISo before 50 we have something close to PotD and HoH, but after 50 it's more like EO?

I didn't bother with EO after the 30 story floors so can't really give great input on "being like EO", but from my own experience I'd place things as such:

Floors 1-50 on par with PotD floors 1-50
Floors 51-70 on par with PotD floors 51-100, HoH floors 1-30
Floors 71-79 are an obscene difficulty spike with a lot of overly large OHKO aoes and luring traps all over the place, by far the most difficult part of the entirety of Pilgrim's Traverse
Floors 81-98 gets a bit easier, on par with PotD floors 101+

All the bosses(including the floor 99/TFV boss) feel reminiscent of Bozja and Second Walk bosses, a step up from "normal" but still a decent bit easier than "extreme".

Unfortunately I've heard from a friend who recently did the minimum 15 offering version of Quantum that it starts out already on par with savage floor 3/4, so it seems like there won't be much actual difficulty variance after all.

[Voidmage]

I haven't done it yet. You'd say it's more like Orthos then, mechanically/gameplay?
And if so (I hope not), nice to hear that they obviously don't listen to any feedback then...

It's more like the old deep dungeons instead of EO.
I have only cleared the story part but the enemies are not damage sponges and have no real one hit kill moves. Even without upgraded gear they are all easy to defeat.
The bosses till then are also forgiving in the damage they do.
It seems mostly comparable to HoH in that aspect.


So far I kinda like it.
It's nice to have a good looking deep dungeon for a change given how much time we spend there.
It gives some interesting background story for the first as well and includes the more "scary" part of the fae as well.
Pomanders are... well basically the same as always sadly, though the candle-thingies are kinda fun in what they do.
Though I haven't found out where you get the currency for the hairstyle till now (I guess the big boss at the end?).
Music over all also seems to have more unique tracks / remixes then the DD before imo.

All in all:
If you like deep dungeons then you will like this one and if not your opinion won't change, though in my opinion it seems to be one of the better ones and is by far better than EO already.
They could have done more new things quite frankly, for example not pomanders again but so far I would tell people to give it a go for the lore alone.
Personally I look forward to doing the deeper floors now that I don't need a fixed party for that anymore, though I don't know how feasible that is with pomanders resetting.


Edit:
So, now I was in the deeper floors as well and I...have to take away a point from this content.
I don't mind deeper floors being tougher and all that BUT, if you have to include 1 hit kill moves then at least don't turn them into gocha moments.
Some enemies have such ridiculously fast and huge aoe's that, if you haven't done them before it is really annoying.
Bosses with those gocha mechanics are fine in other content where you simply go again but not in a deep dungeon where the run is simply over.


So my final opinion:
A solid deep dungeon with weaknesses.
It has great (really great) rewards and a good story, other than that it is simply more of the same again, with annoying one-shot mechanics in deeper floors.
The optic is nice and far better than the past deep dungeons.
It's by far better than Eureka Orthos, which quite frankly was simply trash but I honestly don't know if we really needed the same content again without any noteworthy innovations.
What exactly distinguishes it from the others?

I would give it a 8/10.
Points reduced for the one hit kill abundance and for being not innovative enough like many things in the game right now.
Give it a try for the story and rewards alone but don't expect to fall in love if you didn't like DD before.

Edit2:
Now that i have done it a few times, I can say that PT is probably the best content we have gotten in a while.
The rewards are great, the difficulty is just right for doing it with randoms and the challenge log is something I think we need in more content in this form.
I would push it up to 9/10 with my only gripe being left that it doesn't innovate enough to really feel "new".