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    1. + 2, eh I mean, you have alternatives, so I think it's fine
    3. Well, 2 months unlocked, maybe not, but at least increase the tomes. Make a 4-month tier unlock, perhaps.
    4. UR is much easier than savage, so I dunno about it; it doesn't sound all that fair.
    5. hmm in some way that would be ok and also not.

    I do think the entire gearing system needs to be redone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    1. + 2, eh I mean, you have alternatives, so I think it's fine
    3. Well, 2 months unlocked, maybe not, but at least increase the tomes. Make a 4-month tier unlock, perhaps.
    4. UR is much easier than savage, so I dunno about it; it doesn't sound all that fair.
    5. hmm in some way that would be ok and also not.

    I do think the entire gearing system needs to be redone.
    I do not think it'd be unfair at all if said alternative gear looks worse and drops maybe 2-3 months after Savage.
    Then you cna use it to fill out the stuff you already have.
    Otherwise most Savage gear is only for Glam and necessary for Ultimates and farming... the same Savage and otherwise just for your e-peen feeling in weak-ass content it won't matter in anyways.

    That said that argument if Savage rewards get unlocked earlier than... over half a year later.... would also just boil down to raiders being mad that others have a similar ilvl than them without doing Savage which is just.... little kiddie behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirutsuki View Post
    Yes, there's other means, but you have to go out of your way to find them reliably. Not being in discord to find Hunt Trains is a big issue.
    And the only other options you have is some gacha nonsense with Wonderous Tails.

    Wait, you get tomes from Savage raiding? (joking)

    I don't mean you get the chest inside Unreal, but that you can re-roll in the Savage as if you never opened the one of the weekly 2 chests.
    Yea, it'd be harder to implement, but as I said all these were just random examples to boost morale on doing them.
    Hunts are very active for extended periods of time during a savage tier. Lower at the end of it, of course.

    An extra roll chance means exactly that, granting you another chest of savage, and now that's something I don't agree with. So why not provide it directly in savage to begin with, and why do I have to take extra steps for it?

    They should just scrap the awful system, I reckon.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViinaS View Post
    I do not think it'd be unfair at all if said alternative gear looks worse and drops maybe 2-3 months after Savage.
    Then you cna use it to fill out the stuff you already have.
    Otherwise most Savage gear is only for Glam and necessary for Ultimates and farming... the same Savage and otherwise just for your e-peen feeling in weak-ass content it won't matter in anyways.

    That said that argument if Savage rewards get unlocked earlier than... over half a year later.... would also just boil down to raiders being mad that others have a similar ilvl than them without doing Savage which is just.... little kiddie behaviour.


    I do, think 10 months / savage cycle is beyond stupid, boring, and unnecessary. It should be maybe 6 months, or just entirely scrap the lock idea. Nobody cares if somebody funnels everything into 1 character/person. Let me enjoy the tier at my own pace.

    As for ilvl, you can already be around 760 by doing the newest EX + upgraded Tome gear. The point of doing savage is not even the ilvl in the number sense; it's the optimal stats that they provide, which translates into high dps and easier clear/ dps checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post

    An extra roll chance means exactly that, granting you another chest of savage, and now that's something I don't agree with. So why not provide it directly in savage to begin with, and why do I have to take extra steps for it?

    They should just scrap the awful system, I reckon.
    I personally think games should push players into doing variour things rather than exclude content into one specific game-mode.
    As an example I largely dislike Field Exploration content, because 99% of it is within an instance and it has no value outside of it, nor does anything you do outside effect things inside.
    I would love if the game gave me reasons to do those types of content that also influences my characters growth, be it either these re-roll systems or something else entirely.
    It's one of the reasons why I think criterion should have a way to get that character growth as well, because otherwise there's no reason to do it unless you want to grind it for a mount or something.

    Now sure there's probably better ways of implementing it than what I suggested, but it would be something rather than nothing.
    I've never personally done any Unreal, because I've never felt like the rewards of doing it was worth my time so it was just the first thing that came to mind.
    Honestly it could just as well be a weekly challenge log type thing as well for all I care.

    But do you have other systems or ideas to replace the savage chests rolls, if they were to scrap it? What would work better and be less of a slap in the face?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    1. + 2, eh I mean, you have alternatives, so I think it's fine
    Yes, there's other means, but you have to go out of your way to find them reliably. Not being in discord to find Hunt Trains is a big issue.
    And the only other options you have is some gacha nonsense with Wonderous Tails.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    3. Well, 2 months unlocked, maybe not, but at least increase the tomes. Make a 4-month tier unlock, perhaps.
    Wait, you get tomes from Savage raiding? (joking)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    4. UR is much easier than savage, so I dunno about it; it doesn't sound all that fair.
    I don't mean you get the chest inside Unreal, but that you can re-roll in the Savage as if you never opened the one of the weekly 2 chests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    5. hmm in some way that would be ok and also not.
    Yea, it'd be harder to implement, but as I said all these were just random examples to boost morale on doing them.
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