Alliance Raid Roulette

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]and for a reason the lower level the duty is the higher prio its gets in the roulette, try queuing for higher level AR at inactive hours, you will see the player count slowly build up and suddenly vanish, cause they have all been sent to do CT for someone else.

Not directed at you specifically (more toward SE tbh): so much for a system that's designed to help duties pop eh... the way I see it, they really need to do something as the system overtly favoring CT raids vs other ARs. Doesn't seem like they're doing their job decently.

[aiqa]

and for a reason the lower level the duty is the higher prio its gets in the roulette

Something like that would explain it. But we can't be sure if that is exactly what is happening, and even less so if it's intended. As far as I know there has never been any official statements about such a system. But if that is true, intended or not, that would be a terrible design. And should be changed yesterday.

[MikeCake]

Something like that would explain it. But we can't be sure if that is exactly what is happening, and even less so if it's intended. As far as I know there has never been any official statements about such a system. But if that is true, intended or not, that would be a terrible design. And should be changed yesterday.

If you would code a queue filler, this would be the optimized outcome. The lower levels would have more chance of filling cause there's lot more players that can fill it, so ideally it would be given a higher priority, so it can fill faster and the system can focus on filling the other queues.

[aiqa]

If you would code a queue filler, this would be the optimized outcome. The lower levels would have more chance of filling cause there's lot more players that can fill it, so ideally it would be given a higher priority, so it can fill faster and the system can focus on filling the other queues.

That is a bit to restrictive a view on optimization. A queue filler should also have some optimizations for lowest maximum wait time, not just lowest minimum.

[MikeCake]

That is a bit to restrictive a view on optimization. A queue filler should also have some optimizations for lowest maximum wait time, not just lowest minimum.

That is true, this is just an observation of how duty roulette queue behave in game. We might never know what little adjustments they make, but it sure does benefit lower content to fill faster.

It's also how we never get enough of Eden or Omega raids, but always get queued into Alexander raids for normal raids, other than that the current normal raids also come up and the ones from the previous expansion, cause we have people doing them for the alternative gear and the sword.
I had 40 minute + wait time for each of the Eden raid when I first done them, cause the queue kept resetting the people who were being added into mine.
The same problem with Nier Alliance raid which used to never pop in back in Endwalker, they fixed half of the issue with blocking people queuing without gear, but the problem still exists with how the system prefers to fill some duties faster than the others. Mathematically, lower leveled duties would end up filling faster as they have a bigger pool to collect users from.

But yeah the biggest problem here isn't the queue algorithm, but players not having the content unlocked, most of the new players will only have CT unlocked and a bit of Alexander raids, other than that they finish the MSQ then catch up with current raids while they do not do the side content from the previous expansion for the sake of catching up.

[UNDEAD10000]

Making Crystal Tower alliance raids being part of main story quest in patch 5.3 was by far biggest mistake they ever made and completely ruined alliance raid duty roulette when like 95% of time i get Crystal Tower alliance raid even after they made item level restrictions based on players level in patch 6.5.

Since patch 5.3, i wanted them remove Crystal Tower alliance raids from alliance raid duty roulette and make Crystal Tower alliance raids have own alliance raid duty roulette called as "Crystal Tower".

[VeyaAkemi]

My solution would be different, rather than separating CT series into a different roulette, lock the Alliance Raid roulette back up when you have an alliance raid available to unlock, simple and to the point, you would still get CT sometimes, even a bit more than other raids simply because the barrier of entry means there will always be more characters with fewer raids unlocked than all raids, but it would prevent any form of cheesing the roulette by avoiding to unlock raids, or even just people who aren't trying to cheese things but rather can't be bothered to unlock all raids, from bogging things down, and significantly even out the raids. I'd argue the same should be done for Normal Raid roulette, and use that as the opportunity/excuse to lift the embargo they have on those storylines.

[Arrius]

Make the AR requirement so that you need to complete the Alliance raids of each expansion you have completed the MSQ in. And each time you do, the itemlevel requirement also goes up along with it.

[0blivion]

I agree with all the people who wanna make all ARs on your current level mandatory to unlock the roulette. There's duties in Trials roulette where I am grateful my friend didn't unlock them cause they suck (Hildibrand, Relic) but there's plenty of good mandatory duties to outbalance them. Frankly, I also think the Normal Raid series should be required up to your current level, because if I have to see A2 one more time, I might literally die.

[Infindox]

They could fix the problem by making all 24 man raids mandatory before you get to the next expansion. But I know they will never do that.