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    Quote Originally Posted by Pricia View Post
    They already said they won't.
    Well it isn't concrete but it is up in the air as told in the interview from a page ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...lanned_for_7x/
    - The next raid after Forked Tower is being developed with the feedback from FT in mind, also, the devs are working on hard for it to have multiple difficulty levels. They are also discussing whether to make some adjustments to the mechanics of FT (he mentions there is more individual responsibility than originally planned - the original intention was that perhaps a group of 24 experienced players could bring 24 new players along and clear with them, along those lines).
    That being said, their original intent was a pipe-dream and asinine in thinking that could happen with the way the raid is.

    At most we would most likely see the mechs of snowball,fireball, rune axe and holy lance being changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Well it isn't concrete but it is up in the air as told in the interview from a page ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...lanned_for_7x/


    That being said, their original was a pipe-dream and asinine in thinking that could happen with the way the raid is.

    At most we would most likely see the mechs of snowball,fireball, rune axe and holy lance being changed.
    24 man carrying 24 other doesn't fit with ranger throwing bird so entire one side dies on bridges too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    24 man carrying 24 other doesn't fit with ranger throwing bird so entire one side dies on bridges too.
    Aglaia has AoE tank busters that can wipe the entire alliance. But no one complains about this. Because it's not the sort of thing that happens when people are actually paying attention and trying.

    The same is true of badly aimed ranger birds. It happens, yes, but not with enough regularity to be worth complaining about. (And similarly for a lot of other mechanics in Forked Tower that can hypothetically end a run.)

    On the other hand, "the mechs of snowball,fireball, rune axe and holy lance" that Maltothoris mentioned are actually the sort of things that people giving their all still fail at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    Aglaia has AoE tank busters that can wipe the entire alliance. But no one complains about this. Because it's not the sort of thing that happens when people are actually paying attention and trying.

    The same is true of badly aimed ranger birds. It happens, yes, but not with enough regularity to be worth complaining about. (And similarly for a lot of other mechanics in Forked Tower that can hypothetically end a run.)

    On the other hand, "the mechs of snowball,fireball, rune axe and holy lance" that Maltothoris mentioned are actually the sort of things that people giving their all still fail at.
    Not sure why you compare normal alliance raid vs thing with limited entry and resses but ok.

    My point still stands. Bridge just like other bosses is an encounter that doesn't fit the idea of carrying 24 people.
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    Just got my 100th clear last night, it was a wild ride. The early days were rough but now that you don't have to instance prog entrance into the duty is effortless. There's currently several Discords with every type of prog point runs happening very regularly, if not daily. Sometimes you need to buckle down and put your nose to the grindstone. Wipes happen. The difficulty is extreme at best. FTB has been out for what, five or six months? Complaining on the forums isn't going to do anything at this point, spend that effort actually learning the fights. If you wanted to do the content you'd do the content instead of saying how much you want to do the content but only if they change every aspect of the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammAndCheese View Post
    Just got my 100th clear last night, it was a wild ride. The early days were rough but now that you don't have to instance prog entrance into the duty is effortless. There's currently several Discords with every type of prog point runs happening very regularly, if not daily. Sometimes you need to buckle down and put your nose to the grindstone. Wipes happen. The difficulty is extreme at best. FTB has been out for what, five or six months? Complaining on the forums isn't going to do anything at this point, spend that effort actually learning the fights. If you wanted to do the content you'd do the content instead of saying how much you want to do the content but only if they change every aspect of the content.
    No one cares about your 100 clears and these 100 clears won't make forked tower magically better.

    Just like some other person i saw on forums you come here to brag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    No one cares about your 100 clears and these 100 clears won't make forked tower magically better.

    Just like some other person i saw on forums you come here to brag.
    It's optional community driven content. It's not my fault people won't adapt to the way the community has decided to do said content. I personally think BA, DRS, and FTB is some of the best content in the game, which all three have created some of the best communities I've found in the game. I will concede that they should've given a "normal" mode but they didn't, personally I don't think every bit of content that gets released should be able to be mindlessly steamrolled, there needs to be some form of challenge, which FTB delivers on.

    Also, the tower just got better for me because now I can focus more on helping in prog groups and helping to get others their clear.

    The content was really rough in the beginning--I'm very happy with the changes made after initial critiques, they should add the PF listing for BA as well (when resources allow)--and I wish OC's schedule was more expedited because I feel like we should've had something more by now, but I feel like that's more of a critique of DT in general with how weirdly paced most content has been. I bet we'll probably get some kind of duty when the new Pjobs get added, sadly that won't be for several more months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammAndCheese View Post
    It's optional community driven content. It's not my fault people won't adapt to the way the community has decided to do said content. I personally think BA, DRS, and FTB is some of the best content in the game, which all three have created some of the best communities I've found in the game. I will concede that they should've given a "normal" mode but they didn't, personally I don't think every bit of content that gets released should be able to be mindlessly steamrolled, there needs to be some form of challenge, which FTB delivers on.

    Also, the tower just got better for me because now I can focus more on helping in prog groups and helping to get others their clear.

    The content was really rough in the beginning--I'm very happy with the changes made after initial critiques, they should add the PF listing for BA as well (when resources allow)--and I wish OC's schedule was more expedited because I feel like we should've had something more by now, but I feel like that's more of a critique of DT in general with how weirdly paced most content has been. I bet we'll probably get some kind of duty when the new Pjobs get added, sadly that won't be for several more months.
    You can yap all you want. I joined multiple discords and got clears, forked tower is bad content that needs more fixes like free entrance and even better: normal mode.

    You with 100 clears probably now joined bots that do pots, not surprising to see infamy of blood people hanging around there only pulling one pack of mobs in specific location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    You can yap all you want. I joined multiple discords and got clears, forked tower is bad content that needs more fixes like free entrance and even better: normal mode.

    You with 100 clears probably now joined bots that do pots, not surprising to see infamy of blood people hanging around there only pulling one pack of mobs in specific location.
    Such an unpleasant response. Almost as unpleasant as doing pots. Go engage in bad faith conversations with someone else.
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    Again why do people argue in circles when the problem of forked is so damn obvious

    The content can be good or it can be bad, it’s kinda irrelevant to the situation, the problem is the way the content simply breaks OC itself and that’s a wider issue than opinion on whether forked itself is good or not
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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