My idea for a new tank.

[Reginald_Cain]

Mystic knight tank with chain sickle he swirls around and imbues with elements similar to ericthonios. Use the sickle chain like a grappling hook to either gap close or yank enemies closer like blue mage sticky tongue. Maybe make its short cd like dark knights but instead of breaking a shield you get a 10 second window of auto parry kinda like bulwark and if you take damage the first time you get hit you get a ogcd counter attack and infuses 3 different elements to your next 3 gcds sorta like dark arts.

[The_User]

Please, I don't want to ruin your fun but every time a new job is made, they took from the existing job and kinda diminish new thing that could improve them. Why would anyone want to rob from DRK anymore when it already lose a lot to other job?

[Carighan]

Please, I don't want to ruin your fun but every time a new job is made, they took from the existing job and kinda diminish new thing that could improve them. Why would anyone want to rob from DRK anymore when it already lose a lot to other job?

Maybe at some point you'll realize why everyone does so perfectly fine with DRK, just not you. (there's a consistent element there, you'll find it eventually I'm sure)

[Carighan]

Mystic knight tank with chain sickle he swirls around and imbues with elements similar to ericthonios. Use the sickle chain like a grappling hook to either gap close or yank enemies closer like blue mage sticky tongue. Maybe make its short cd like dark knights but instead of breaking a shield you get a 10 second window of auto parry kinda like bulwark and if you take damage the first time you get hit you get a ogcd counter attack and infuses 3 different elements to your next 3 gcds sorta like dark arts.

Hrm, pretty neat idea, though for any new job (FFXIV has more than enough already if we're being honest) I'd really want very unique gameplay elements.

I guess in this case two immediately obvious elements of this design would be:

* All attacks AoEs, most of them PBAoE.
* Never-ending, maybe even auto-attacking, as you never stop spinning with your sickle? Or maybe even two modes, in one you cannot stop spinning and moving and all is AoE, in the other you're static but things are single-target, slower and you can't use some abilities?

And then like you say, do a lot with infusions of aether to emulate Erich. Come to think of it they could take a chunk out of some other MMOs, and make it so that this job has PBAoE autoattacks, no actual attack abilities, and the infusions modify the next auto-attack. So what is an attack skill on another job is an infusion here, and there's a delay before it is used (obvs some stuff can't work like this such as Interject).

[LathyrusLoon]

This sounds like a lot of fun. I'm hoping we'll get a new tank and healer in 8.0 so maybe this is our future

Aesthetically maybe it could be something between war and drk. Or lean in heavy on the elemental aspect and go tank druid.

[Vatom]

Not a fan of the chain sickle give that to a nin or a new dex class. If I would choose a weapon it be like a sword spear or something but also I would like to hear this thought more flushed out before giving it an ok

[Reginald_Cain]

Please, I don't want to ruin your fun but every time a new job is made, they took from the existing job and kinda diminish new thing that could improve them. Why would anyone want to rob from DRK anymore when it already lose a lot to other job?

Dark knight suffers from being one of the better designed tanks early on and having its mechanics copied over as a result. Look at gap closer on all tanks and powerful short cd Mitsubishi. Even dark arts went to sage. I think my short mitigation idea is unique enough by modern ff14 standards but I understand the knee perk frustration. Personally I wish they'd leaned into dark knight being a drain tank more than. Warrior but with how things are now im unsure how they can make dark knight feel more unique.

[Reginald_Cain]

Not a fan of the chain sickle give that to a nin or a new dex class. If I would choose a weapon it be like a sword spear or something but also I would like to hear this thought more flushed out before giving it an ok

I feel like guandao would be closest to sword spear and it's functionally too similar to both dark knight and warriors weapons. I want the new tank to be able to pick between pulling enemies from afar or using the weapons to pull yourself into the enemy. It's more unique than generic dash. Guandao Mystic knight could be cool if it gets a spinning attack centric kit like carhigan suggested above. I just want a tank that feels powerful in a way that doesn't involve a giant weapon.