Let us use PVP kits in PVE

[BokoToloko]

PVP is fun because it's not a bunch of scripted encounters and has some actual variability thanks to human behavior completely taking the wheel, not because the job design is amazing.

Trying to merge even more simplified and role-dilluted kits (healers are even more green DPS in PvP) into inflexible, scripted and (somewhat) dependant on roles content will only make those who were fine with PvE kits despise the content and those who prefer PvP despise it even more. Not to mention that, in case of PvP Healer kits, they would be a massive hindrance in a large part of PvE because they don't have anywhere near the same healing input (most of the healing going on comes from Recuperate and the Elixir. not from healer input)

Give BRD, and MCH walking casts like they do in PVP please!!

Give cast times back to SMN. Gun and Bow Mage can stay dead, PvE wise.

[ty_taurus]

PVP is fun because it's not a bunch of scripted encounters and has some actual variability thanks to human behavior completely taking the wheel, not because the job design is amazing.

Trying to merge even more simplified and role-dilluted kits (healers are even more green DPS in PvP) into inflexible, scripted and (somewhat) dependant on roles content will only make those who were fine with PvE kits despise the content and those who prefer PvP despise it even more. Not to mention that, in case of PvP Healer kits, they would be a massive hindrance in a large part of PvE because they don't have anywhere near the same healing input (most of the healing going on comes from Recuperate and the Elixir. not from healer input)


Give cast times back to SMN. Gun and Bow Mage can stay dead, PvE wise.

Hence why the suggestion only specifies content where either you're alone so you can't "bother" others by doing it, or where roles don't matter anyway.

[MayuAmakura]

PVP is fun because it's not a bunch of scripted encounters and has some actual variability thanks to human behavior completely taking the wheel, not because the job design is amazing.

Trying to merge even more simplified and role-dilluted kits (healers are even more green DPS in PvP) into inflexible, scripted and (somewhat) dependant on roles content will only make those who were fine with PvE kits despise the content and those who prefer PvP despise it even more. Not to mention that, in case of PvP Healer kits, they would be a massive hindrance in a large part of PvE because they don't have anywhere near the same healing input (most of the healing going on comes from Recuperate and the Elixir. not from healer input)
Give cast times back to SMN. Gun and Bow Mage can stay dead, PvE wise.

Healers are green dps in pvp? Did you ever see the end game results of Crystaline Conflict? You'll frequently see WHM, Sage and scholar being at top dps at the end of CC. This happens even in higher elo. As for healing, this is where you are wrong. I regularly have 1.5-2 million healing in 5 minute matches as WHM and other classes can do it better. I can give you also an example that a Reaper can outheal everyone in Frontlines just because it has a shield that adds healing to whole party. So this isn't just recuperate and potion which play a small contribution. Can also go to frontlines and you'll see Scholars with millions of dps in charts.