"We're people too." To the producer and Dev team of this MMORPG

[Striker44]

Lol, use the .01% of insane comments to blanket all toxicity sounds about right for an xiv defender. First off we can call for people to get fired all we want. Everyone knows most of us are not shielded from getting fired when we do a shit job, you new to the way the world works? Why exactly do the xiv devs get cuddling when the product has become sub par and the story is mid as hell upon other things?

This might be one of the most...I don't even know the word to describe it. In just a few sentences, it manages to completely lie about the nature of these forums (toxic posts are actually rather pervasive here and cheered on), then just goes all-in on being toxic itself.

I'll just say it again - yes, you *can* call for people to be fired. You also shouldn't expect to be taken seriously by mature adults if you do so.

[MarniDawg]

I'll just say it again - yes, you *can* call for people to be fired. You also shouldn't expect to be taken seriously by mature adults if you do so.

I disagree with this. If someone isn't good at a job you hired them for they should be fired. Imagine if someone doing quality inspections on an airplane was mid at their job.

[Dan4077]

This might be one of the most...I don't even know the word to describe it. In just a few sentences, it manages to completely lie about the nature of these forums (toxic posts are actually rather pervasive here and cheered on), then just goes all-in on being toxic itself.

I'll just say it again - yes, you *can* call for people to be fired. You also shouldn't expect to be taken seriously by mature adults if you do so.

So in your world, no matter how bad someone is at their job, no matter how many mistakes they make, or how they act. There is no reality in your world for them to be called to be fired, wild.

[Dan4077]

Reread my post, because that's not what I said at all.

What I said is that there's always an odd chance that what (a collective) you want goes against what developers want for the project. And in that case there's not much any of us can do about it. In FF14's case it particularly concerns housing - they can, technically, implement a different system. But the thing is - they don't want to, and there's nothing to suggest that they wavered in their stance on that in 10 years, so far. Doesn't mean it can't change one miraculous day, but with how much time has passed... I feel like we've reached the point where it's safe to say that housing most likely ain't changing pretty much ever.

Someone else mentioned Hoyoverse and the way they handle feedback, and the only thing I can say is that it won't help either. Hoyo, much like anyone else, are also experts at ignoring feedback that goes against what they want to see in their projects (all while making way more money than SE will ever even dream of). That particularly concerns their F to M characters ratio, and is something the community has been very vocal about for 5 years in all their projects. And there's nothing to suggest that they're wavering on that aspect of their game design, because that's simply the path they chose.

"It's a product we pay for" - yes, but at the end of the day we're not the ones creating it, and as such any final decisions aren't ours to make. If developer is stubborn about some aspect of their game design, as a player and customer the only thing we can do is either keep pestering them while also understanding that it can be for nothing, or vote with the wallet and leave.

Your entire post was summed up to, if you are negative about the game cause of said direction, leave the game. Sure you did not mean any level of negative. But like I said, it is all about a persons line in the sand right? Most of what i posted was examples. I am not even demanding everything be fixed on my list, I just want to see some things addressed and see quality improvement.

Yeah you right, this company may keep sailing towards the ice berg then just cost off the bare minimum effort. In turn, yeah I will quit like you suggest. It all comes down to if I believe it is worth it or if a new mmo comes out I rather play. I already did my small protest by cutting all my retainers with no more mog station purchases, and going to basic 1 character for now. Quitting is of course a last resort and that is going to be around when fan fest info starts dropping again during the massive drought. 8.0 is the make it break it moment for me if I come back or not, and my expectations are already low for that.

[Kahnha]

It's important that we stop attacking each other

and that we look to XIV the director and the Dev team.

most of us here can agree on these points.

- We want the game to do better and succeed and be better than the competition

- We don't want them to scrap the MMO because of lack of funds

- We don't want a sub increase because of lack of funds

- We are not happy that the corporation is mismanaging funds.

Personally I've cleared every ultimate I have 4 houses did most of the savage raids, have the glams I want a good friend group etx
I very much want 14 to do well so I can show off to new players that doesn't happen if the Dev team keeps hyper focusing on the most
fringe criticisms only to miss the forest for the trees and then produce poor content like DT 7.0

There has to be something we agree on this slap fighting is useless.

[All_Nonsense]

This might be one of the most...I don't even know the word to describe it..

Time to play a game of "Redditor or Rage Baiter?"

hmm....I'll start collecting bets

[Regis_Paran]

I'm not reading all that,

So why the need to announce it to the world? You're not addding to the discussion.

[Halivel]

Your entire post was summed up to, if you are negative about the game cause of said direction, leave the game. Sure you did not mean any level of negative. But like I said, it is all about a persons line in the sand right? Most of what i posted was examples. I am not even demanding everything be fixed on my list, I just want to see some things addressed and see quality improvement.

Yeah you right, this company may keep sailing towards the ice berg then just cost off the bare minimum effort. In turn, yeah I will quit like you suggest. It all comes down to if I believe it is worth it or if a new mmo comes out I rather play. I already did my small protest by cutting all my retainers with no more mog station purchases, and going to basic 1 character for now. Quitting is of course a last resort and that is going to be around when fan fest info starts dropping again during the massive drought. 8.0 is the make it break it moment for me if I come back or not, and my expectations are already low for that.

"Your entire post was summed up to, if you are negative about the game cause of said direction, leave the game" - and that is, again, not what I said at all, but whatever. Maybe I'm not eloquent enough to make my point clear.

[Exmo]

So why the need to announce it to the world? You're not addding to the discussion.

"Respond to feedback." "Don't respond to feedback." Can't win with you people smh

[Drimn]

I mean, at the risk of starting a flame war, a particular high profile member of the dev team's social media posts about a certain current event kind of make their attempts to appeal to humanity and civility fall a little flat in retrospect.