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    StormChase's Avatar
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    Baidur Haragin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    We get it, you want to accommodate everyone as much as possible with their experience through the main story line. You want players that do seek immersion in the story to be able to do so with little puzzle sessions giving out agency to them, and you want story skippers not to be blocked by such immersive experiences too much.

    Am I the only one that finds this to be broken logically? If you actually wanted msq skippers to fully enjoy themselves, you'd just give them a button at every patch to skip every dialog and cutscene and move on to the next dungeon or trial. They're obviously not there for the story, so why do you keep forcing them through it, even though it comes at the cost of everybody else that do enjoy the story? Where is the logic in that? Meanwhile we could have so much more than "go talk to X then back to Y" back and forth, but that's what we're going to get just because someone that doesn't want to go through the story can spam skip? Is this for real? Just let them skip the whole thing and make the whole thing actually engaging for once!

    On top of it, having such a button would ensure that nobody gets stuck behind any little puzzle, now matter how trivial it is. Everybody wins.
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
    It's not me that's talking about story skippers, that's the producer himself. I've been an avid story/loremonger since I've started, even if my interest in it has done a sharp nosedive since Dawntrail.
    Stop being a bigot for a moment and consider where it may actually benefit you as a story enjoyer to have a better fleshed out experience once the skippers are out of the picture with their skip button, will you?
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    It's not me that's talking about story skippers, that's the producer himself. I've been an avid story/loremonger since I've started, even if my interest in it has done a sharp nosedive since Dawntrail.
    Stop being a bigot for a moment and consider where it may actually benefit you as a story enjoyer to have a better fleshed out experience once the skippers are out of the picture with their skip button, will you?
    I can get his point but I kind of hope he shies away from it. I think it's good if they hear feedback and incorporate feedback that works with their plans for the game. But they sway far too often in the wind. I want to see their idea for the game more. I may absolutely hate it and if I do then I'll tell them constructively what isn't my personal cup of tea. But I would be happy to see them establishing a set idea for the game. I feel like that was something we had in the earlier eras of the game and then they started to wobble far too much trying to please every single player and that just won't happen. I do think they can find a happy medium to make things appealing to many but they will need to live with the fact that some may decide to move on and that something like that is okay if it means they are more solid in their vision of the game.
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
    I say the same to all the ppl whom SE heavily caters to, who have no interest in teaming up or having to rely on other ppl. Why are you playing an MMO? But that is met with derision. Which makes zero sense if you think about it at all, since one option only effects the player, but the other effects literally everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wasselin View Post
    eventually they will put less effort into the story content.
    Eventually? Sorry buddy but *looks at Dawntrail* that ship has already sailed lol
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    Last edited by MicahZerrshia; 09-09-2025 at 04:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
    i think your missing the point of a mmo lol
    anyways there solution is to pay 60$ for a skip
    realistically i want rewards for people who like alts it can be a achievement a sticker legit anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
    FFXIV is marketed as an MMORPG. If caring about the story was mandatory: A. Skipping cutscenes wouldn't be an option and B. They wouldn't sell msq skips.

    I have zero interest in the story & i've cleared way more content than you.

    Who are you to be telling anyone what they should or shouldn't play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
    this game lost the right to say that after it wrote dt as poorly as it did
    people are totally justified in wanting to skip after that mess

    also the devs themselves dont mind if you skip, long as you pay. by selling story skips, they're effectively admitting that the story isn't a big deal and if you're willing to hand them 20 bucks or w/e, they'll let you ignore it. this isn't a hill worth dying on, friend. not even the devs care. and the writers we have right now clearly don't give a shit about making a good story.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 09-09-2025 at 12:25 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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    Lua Navkov
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
    That's a very short-sighted view. Live service MMOs (should) offer more than just a story. If those who enjoy the game exclusively for other reasons were to leave, it would be worse for everyone.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    This might sound harsh but if you have zero interest in the story then you shouldn't be playing a role-playing game.
    This might sound harsh but there is no roleplaying in this game especially msq. There is even no branching in story based on "choices". Entire msq is worthy being watched on youtube, nothing else.

    If anything this game needs account wide msq progress so it becomes alt friendly.
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