Aetherwell should not be tied to the level of the duty

[tank2fish]

This relic step really confirms for me that the developers likely do not play their own game, do not test their game, or don't listen to feedback from the English audience.

Tying the amount of aether that a player receives to the level of a duty when the player has absolutely no control over what duty they may end up getting into is a decision that makes very little to no sense. You are punishing a player over something they have no control over, as they are required to queue for a roulette (which is entirely random by definition). This cascades into further punishing players, as people who are trying to efficiently fill their Aetherwell array are rewarded for leaving the duty, and the players that remain have to wait for a fill and struggle in the meantime.

How are those leaving rewarded? Well, the 30min wait time for leaving a duty is meaningless if the player that leaves receive higher aetherpool rewards for getting a different duty. Sometimes the amount is doubled or even tripled the amount they would have received initially if they had stayed (ie. leaving a lvl 50 duty and getting lucky and getting into a lvl 100 duty later).

This kind of decision making and game design is incredibly perplexing. I would understand tying aetherpool to level if the players had ANY CONTROL over queuing for the duty in question, but punishing players for things that are entirely outside of their control?? It's made even worse that the ONLY option to complete this step is roulettes and ONLY ROULETTES. Who okayed this decision? Was any thinking involved in this, at all? Supposedly you're listening to feedback, but the feedback is overwhelmingly "more options to complete relic steps", and yet the result we're getting is.... no options?? What feedback are you listening to? WHO are you listening to?

[Fawkes]

The opposite would be players dropping every roulette that's longer, we've had that in the past because some people would rather eat a 30 minute penalty than play the game for 20 extra minutes.

[Themarvin]

I think the highest level duties should drop 4x the amount and same for the longest 24 man raids..... and if forcefully dropping out of eg. alliance raid and the likes or not doing anything inside 24 hour penalty for aetherpool.

[tank2fish]

The opposite would be players dropping every roulette that's longer, we've had that in the past because some people would rather eat a 30 minute penalty than play the game for 20 extra minutes.

I don't see how that makes sense whatsoever. If aetherwell is not tied to the duty but instead to completion bonus, for example, then people are incentivized to stay in the duty regardless of what they get as the bonus would be the same no matter what. As it stands right now, people are actively punished for staying in a low level duty because aetherwell is tied to the duty level and not to the completion bonus. Your response makes no sense.

[tank2fish]

I think the highest level duties should drop 4x the amount and same for the longest 24 man raids..... and if forcefully dropping out of eg. alliance raid and the likes or not doing anything inside 24 hour penalty for aetherpool.

Did you read the post? This reply makes no sense in response to my post. Making the punishment for leaving a duty even harsher than it is right now is nonsensical, and harshly punishes people who have legitimate reasons for leaving a duty. This is not a solution, and they should not take this as good feedback.

[Supersnow845]

I don't see how that makes sense whatsoever. If aetherwell is not tied to the duty but instead to completion bonus, for example, then people are incentivized to stay in the duty regardless of what they get as the bonus would be the same no matter what. As it stands right now, people are actively punished for staying in a low level duty because aetherwell is tied to the duty level and not to the completion bonus. Your response makes no sense.

If every alliance raid gave the same amount of aether why would anyone stay on TAPB if they could drop to do CT in a third of the time

[VeyaAkemi]

I don't see how that makes sense whatsoever.

People have been doing this for *years*, before adjustments to the Alliance Raid roulette preventing you queing while undergeared for your level, people would actively unequip their gear to reduce the number of available Raids to the point it'd guarantee CT, some people have outright refused to unlock other Alliance Raids because doing so guarantees they will get CT every time, they only care that it is the shortest option, since the roulette payout, in particular tomes, is the same whether you spent 10 minutes in Syrcus or 40 minutes in Tower at Paradigm's Breach, balancing out the point reward based on length IS a good choice based on previous player behavior.

[tank2fish]

People have been doing this for *years*, before adjustments to the Alliance Raid roulette preventing you queing while undergeared for your level, people would actively unequip their gear to reduce the number of available Raids to the point it'd guarantee CT, some people have outright refused to unlock other Alliance Raids because doing so guarantees they will get CT every time, they only care that it is the shortest option, since the roulette payout, in particular tomes, is the same whether you spent 10 minutes in Syrcus or 40 minutes in Tower at Paradigm's Breach, balancing out the point reward based on length IS a good choice based on previous player behavior.

But that's not what I'm talking about? I'm specifically talking about aether being tied to duty level inside a randomized queue, with no other alternatives to farm for the aetherwell. As it currently works the points are not tied to time to completion, as similarly time completed duties are awarding different points based on level with the lower level duties awarding less. I have been in several alliance raids with 5> people dropping raids regularly. I know this is anecdotal, but player retention is worse, not better, in roulettes.

As it works right now, it is punishing players who play normally, and it is STILL rewarding players who leave roulettes in droves in the name of efficiency. Roulettes is not content that needed refreshing. It is not content that they needed to incentivize people to do. People already do roulettes very regularly, outside of this relic step.

[tank2fish]

If every alliance raid gave the same amount of aether why would anyone stay on TAPB if they could drop to do CT in a third of the time

For the same reason people intentionally queue for specific duties: to play them. Just because you or other people leave long alliance raid does not mean the vast majority does. Believe it or not there are people out there who want to experience something other than CT, and you know what? If this step had given people open options to queue for whatever raids they wanted to do and clearly listed the rewards, that would give players the OPTION and the CHOICE to do whatever they want, instead of punishing players for having bad luck in the roulette.

[Supersnow845]

For the same reason people intentionally queue for specific duties: to play them. Just because you or other people leave long alliance raid does not mean the vast majority does. Believe it or not there are people out there who want to experience something other than CT, and you know what? If this step had given people open options to queue for whatever raids they wanted to do and clearly listed the rewards, that would give players the OPTION and the CHOICE to do whatever they want, instead of punishing players for having bad luck in the roulette.

I don’t leave the roulette don’t put words in my mouth, I’m the one who laughs at people who leave nier raids in alliance chat and leaves CT to give others a free out

I’m saying that providing the same reward for duties of vastly different length when the roulette is already biased is not the answer

They should have made the wells fill with any duty on the roulette, not do the roulette itself, I’d just sit in the queue for monastery and tower so I never had to see crystal tower