So Yoshi-P just confirmed jobs won't get a big rework in 8.0.

[MicahZerrshia]

"But we are trying to do something new on top of what we already have." is likely just combining the combo buttons and then just giving us a couple new traits and 1 new attack as per the usual.

"hey look healers you finally get the dps rotation you have been asking for, and we combined them for convenience so it's just 1 button" is totally the kind of move I would expect lol

[HanakoTheGoth]

they arent calming this shit storm. if this is true there might be like few 1000 players who still playing this game. if this is there stance. like they can afford to lose anymore player base. when already lost 70% of it cause dawntrail. you be drugs if you think ppl gonna wanna come back to

do nothing yoshi very bad class design dev team. like i said burn in hellfire

[sharknado]

I don't get why anyone would want them to redo the whole thing from the ground up xD

People are mad about summoner/astro/DRK/... gutted, and the list can go on. WHM still has freecure, excess healing buttons, and as all healers have problems with their DPS rotation and then healing requirements in the content. A lot of things can change.

8.0 will be in 2027 and if by that time they still have antics in job design or other nonsense, then I doubt it will sell more than 50% of Dawntrail, and LiarP will have to apologize again.

[Nipaaah]

Players who don't like the current job system:

You will take your barebones job design, your DDR sloppa fights, and you will like it.

[MicahZerrshia]

and LiarP will have to apologize again.

It really feels like half his job is apologizing and trying to do damage control. You would think after nearly 15 years of this they would have at least tried to listen a little harder and experiment a little more so they can create a better product.

[MayuAmakura]

I can't disagree more and this may be proof a segment of players on the forums cannot read.

Player choice / talent tree / specialization can potentially be a big change.

Once again do not put high hopes to this and what he says. It's always lies and deception to make you "look forward to it" and then you get disappointed again. So no high hopes or same will happen. If devs needed so many years to fix hats and add chat bubble, what makes you think that they will add talents, "player choice" or specialization? Don't get me wrong, I would like this but what we will get in 8.0 is same as we were getting all these expansions. 1 new spells, filler minor buffs in between and that's it. Enjoy.

Talents are a good thing if they are made so every talent counts. Before someone comes and drops "but everybody will follow same best talents". That will only happen if devs allow that. Wow's earlier expansions didn't have this. They were always left with 3-4 talents that were your picks and most classes didn't have best. it was just "pick this and from there pick last points at your leisure".

Some shillers already started with miss translation thing and calling this a badly worded thing again lmao. They can never accept reality.

[MayuAmakura]

It really feels like half his job is apologizing and trying to do damage control. You would think after nearly 15 years of this they would have at least tried to listen a little harder and experiment a little more so they can create a better product.

Because it works. There were plenty of game companies that would apologize after taking money, doing damage to players and game itself. Community accepts it and pretends nothing ever happened. When people forget then same crap is bound to happen which is exactly happening here where some will tone down with his "miraculous" speech.

[Turtledeluxe]

Once again do not put high hopes to this and what he says. It's always lies and deception to make you "look forward to it" and then you get disappointed again. So no high hopes or same will happen. If devs needed so many years to fix8 hats and add chat bubble, what makes you think that they will add talents, "player choice" or specialization? Don't get me wrong, I would like this but what we will get in 8.0 is same as we were getting all these expansions. 1 new spells, filler minor buffs in between and that's it. Enjoy.

Talents are a good thing if they are made so every talent counts. Before someone comes and drops "but everybody will follow same best talents". That will only happen if devs allow that. Wow's earlier expansions didn't have this. They were always left with 3-4 talents that were your picks and most classes didn't have best. it was just "pick this and from there pick last points at your leisure".

Some shillers already started with miss translation thing and calling this a badly worded thing again lmao. They can never accept reality.

I don't think you need to have high hopes in order to read or vice versa. Nowhere in the statement does Yoshi P confirm minor changes. He confirms that if you like your current class, you will still enjoy it. But they are building on top of that i.e player choice.

Yes metas will always exist, but that is not unique to XIV..

Hyperbole in either direction is not helpful. I will be the first to say DT is a subpar product outside encounters, and I do think the team leaders are all out of touch. But at the same time its objectively not true "everything Yoshi P says is a lie" or anything like that.

[Mikey_R]

At this point, all anyone should be doing is staying neutral until we have some actual demonstrations of what they are planning and not basing it off of vague language that ultimately means nothing.

[Nipaaah]

I don't think you need to have high hopes in order to read or vice versa. Nowhere in the statement does Yoshi P confirm minor changes. He confirms that if you like your current class, you will still enjoy it. But they are building on top of that i.e player choice.

Yes metas will always exist, but that is not unique to XIV..

Hyperbole in either direction is not helpful.

I don’t think anyone here is being hyperbolic. We’ve just noticed a pattern with Yoshi-P constantly dodging and never committing to one direction. When you see that pattern, the natural move is to call out the bullshit with greater scrutiny and stay skeptical about anything he does or says. I mean, Occult Crescent was supposed to be something 'new,' but it turned out to be a mash-up of two existing things, with Lost Actions rebranded as 'phantom jobs.' Lol.