"New content" should not be forced farm of 10 year old content at this point...

[Kahnha]

The issue isn't that it is old content the issue is a level 100 player is missing their full kit while being in a level 50 dungeon there would be zero complaints if we at least had our level 80 move set by level 50 new players would enjoy this too. xD

[Ephremjlm]

The issue isn't that it is old content the issue is a level 100 player is missing their full kit while being in a level 50 dungeon there would be zero complaints if we at least had our level 80 move set by level 50 new players would enjoy this too. xD

I agree with this, but I think its still one step away from the basic issue in the design of it all. It's just not fun man. There is no reason we should be doing lesser content with ANY bit of a lesser kit. This game has been around for over 10 years now and their idea for a relic grind is to do roulettes of content that is over ten years old with the kit to match. I mean if I was to bet on the reasoning, I think that the failure of OC, and the huge drop off of mostly older players has factored in to funneling players into older content. For the longest time SE's business model has focused on getting new players. There are still those climbing to end game, and if queues are super long and new players are forced to use NPC's and not get the visual of playing with PC's then the whole veil that this game is a MMO and not a single player experience goes away. I think they should just double down on it honestly and make leveling type zones out of the open world for all old content, with dungeon xp still being just as good. That whole problem would simply solve itself for new and old players leveling. It just makes so much more sense to get that completely off of their plate and never have to look at it again.......at least until the "massive" job changes lol. Hopefully that isn't another hole they dig themselves into XD.

[AmiableApkallu]

there would be zero complaints if we at least had our level 80 move set by level 50 new players would enjoy this too

Absolutely... until those new players realize that they get basically nothing new for the next 50 levels.

[Kahnha]

Absolutely... until those new players realize that they get basically nothing new for the next 50 levels.

that's details we can iron that out after we get it xD

they get new armor sets and maybe the moves change as they get stronger ;P

[Allyissa]

They are getting us to do old content because when they make us do new content, people complain.

That's right, I said people complain about us having to do new content for the relic. There were people that didn't want to do Eureka. There were people that didn't want to do Bozja (the new content) so they farmed Crystal Tower and O3 instead. There were people that didn't want to do Occult Crescent so they farmed FATEs outside it instead.

So there is this consistent anti-new content camp for some reason that want the farm to be really quick and really braindead and involve raids like Crystal Tower. I don't get it, but of course SE is listening to those voices as well.

The problem with CT for this light farm is that you get less light. I did AR roulette and got DT1 and got about 300 more light for it. The same can be said for high level duty roulette. The level 50 duty gave less light than the level 60 duty. Some one said time is a factor and I can see it playing a part in it. I also think level plays a part. Getting people to open up and do other duties is likely a factor.

I don’t mind running stuff. Gil and tomes are always nice, but the lopsided light return really bugs me. Just got done the previous step of the relic grind, but I did 21 weapons and crafting and gathering gear “savage” grind. Tomestones were in hot demand for both.

[Raikai]

TBH running old content for specific objectives would be more enjoyable if we could use the job's full kits, scaled down.

[avraymk]

I'm okay with running old content but god, Crystal Tower got boring a LONG time ago.

I have yet to see 1 single other raid pop (as is usually the case with Crystal Tower Roulette (Alliance Roulette).

Recycling old content is fine, I'd just prefer it if there was a challenge/it wasn't content we've already done literally 1000's of times.

Would be so much happier if content was taking us back to Shadowbringers over anything ARR.

[Raikai]

I'm okay with running old content but god, Crystal Tower got boring a LONG time ago.

I have yet to see 1 single other raid pop (as is usually the case with Crystal Tower Roulette (Alliance Roulette).

Recycling old content is fine, I'd just prefer it if there was a challenge/it wasn't content we've already done literally 1000's of times.

Would be so much happier if content was taking us back to Shadowbringers over anything ARR.

If their coding allows,to mix different party size duties in the same roulette, I'd love to see ARR raids moved to the MSQ roulette... since those are requirements to the MSQ.

Or... (I'll probably be flamed for this?), since they really like to do that kind of thing to old duties, give the Castrum and Praetorium treatment and remake them into Light Party instance. Again, for the Crystal Tower raids being an odd case of necessity to progress through the story. That would at least make the bosses more interesting than they currently are today. I really think the bosses of the MSQ roulette got really better and even useful as a learning experience.

Generally I dislike what they did remaking the ARR duties, making them lose a lot of flavor, but Castrum and Praetorium were the only cases it actually became better.