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  1. #11
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Part of it is likely just that you're playing a tank and them being demigods as you say. DPS get killed due to tunneling (or maimed like you describe) in most normal content such as alliance raids, normal raids, hunts, boss FATEs like Mica and Serpentlord, CEs in OC, trials (and yes trials used to be nothing really until maybe Shadowbringers and Endwalker). Modern dungeons can get DPS that tunnel as well. Most things from Heavensward or Stormblood don't really get people much anymore but when they were current there were normal raids that beat a lot of parties up.

    There's also the sheer repetition issue. Since they are scripted and you get used to them all you likely don't notice them being punishing like the more inexperienced players doing them. This is especially the case for dungeons which suffer both from the repetition issue and then item level growth. That's why the leveling dungeons always feel better. You've no need to repeat them a lot and they sync well.

    Anyway, they are making a general adjustment to content where the difficulty will be variable depending on what you want, starting with the new Deep Dungeon and Variant Dungeons. I don't know about jobs but I'd expect something along the lines of skill trees in 8.0.
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    Miranda Vara
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    This is why things like Eureka and Bozja are considered "Midcore"...
    Idk if anyone uses your term for what casusal/midcore/hardcore is. What people consider 'hardcore' doesn't even exist in your system, because the difference between someone who engages in savage content like 3hr a week and takes 18 weeks to clear, and someone who does 12hr a day and clears in the first week is pretty huge. But as for content type, savage would count as midcore, as it's not even close to the same kind of investment as an ultimate (not UWU) is. Savage is pretty much the midcore content of this game, comparable to raids in WoW. Makes more sense to lump up anything that requires no significant enough amount of effort (only time) would be casual content, midcore is anything that requires some effort and organizing, and hardcore is peak difficulty content in the game.
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    Domina's Avatar
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    Ailora Marsh
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    Omega
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Midcore is progression, leveling, gearing & exploration. Its been completely gutted in FFXIV. FFXI & Classic WoW are some examples of games with a heavy midcore.
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    or maybe there are different scales which all use the same words to define it.

    difficulty, accessibility, time investment, punishment, content type.

    just one of it or a mix of several of these.... everyone looks at it differently.... and lets not forget aboit the ones mixing their own abilities / experiences into the mix
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    without fun jobs none of the content is fun!
    jobs should have their full rotations on lvl 60 or 70! for a better low lvl experience.
    for satisfying glam builduing we need 5 basic glamplates + 2 more for each class / job
    pls give us a proper glam collection like every other mmo has.
    pls upgrade the gear from normal raid and also alliance-raid by 10 ilvl each.
    pls add old glowy ex trial weapons for new jobs!
    and for gods sake pls give as the ability to preview any hairstyle on our own character!

  5. #15
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rxantos View Post
    After years of playing I cancel the subscription today as the game no longer cares of adding things that appeal to a player like me. The gameplay is divided between Lowcore and Highcore. With Middlecore being abandoned.

    First the definitions.

    Hardcore = Need preparation time. Mostly due to surprise sucker mechanics focused on killing and not maiming. Healers become USELESS due to the focus on killing and not maiming. And body checks.
    Let me just say this: watching a guide and somebody spoon-feeding you the solution is the LOW effort, casual/midcore approach because you are using 0 brain power to actually figure out how it works.

    To be able to go in 100% blind means two things.
    1. The fight is intuitive, and you can just figure out what is going to happen.
    2. You have previous experience, and the mechanics look similar to something you've done before.

    Also, your definition of hardcore is very untrue on so many levels. Hardcore content requires 2 main components: 1. precision and consistency, 2. Mental fortitude.

    Watching guides, practicing sims, watching POVs, and studying upcoming mechanics are not exclusive to hardcore groups; it depends more on the group's goal and how they approach progression in a fight. Also, saying healers are unnecessary to hardcore groups discredits everything you said because it reveals a poor understanding of raiding in general, whether hardcore or not.

    PS: I wish people would stop treating forums like an airport, or at least making sense in their rant.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    or maybe there are different scales which all use the same words to define it.

    difficulty, accessibility, time investment, punishment, content type.

    just one of it or a mix of several of these.... everyone looks at it differently.... and lets not forget aboit the ones mixing their own abilities / experiences into the mix
    That's exactly the problems with those dicussion, everyone has it's own scale for what midcore content is. For me up to extreme is casual content, criterion and savage are midcore and only ultimate and criterion savage can be considered hardcore.
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  7. #17
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    Sy Der
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    Gunbreaker Lv 66
    I feel like what many people are missing is that content, for example Savage, can be done in a casual, midcore or Hardcore way. It's more about how you attempt the content.
    Midcore would be players that take their time to clear after a few weeks. Hardcore players clear week 1. Casuals wait until they can unsync it to clear it.
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  8. #18
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyferU View Post
    I feel like what many people are missing is that content, for example Savage, can be done in a casual, midcore or Hardcore way. It's more about how you attempt the content.
    Midcore would be players that take their time to clear after a few weeks. Hardcore players clear week 1. Casuals wait until they can unsync it to clear it.
    but that just means you define the player. not the content. most people wanna define the content though. in one wqy or another

    i did hardcore content in a casual static... if you wanna look at savage as hardcore, which i do
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    Last edited by Asari5; 09-05-2025 at 10:52 PM.
    without fun jobs none of the content is fun!
    jobs should have their full rotations on lvl 60 or 70! for a better low lvl experience.
    for satisfying glam builduing we need 5 basic glamplates + 2 more for each class / job
    pls give us a proper glam collection like every other mmo has.
    pls upgrade the gear from normal raid and also alliance-raid by 10 ilvl each.
    pls add old glowy ex trial weapons for new jobs!
    and for gods sake pls give as the ability to preview any hairstyle on our own character!

  9. #19
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    It's rather abandonned content with shelf life that happens to be for midcore playèrs.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
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    I don't blame them for not listening to this sort of 'feedback'. Ask 5 players what they think midcore is and you'll get 7 different answers which helps absolutely nobody.
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