Dark Knight Balance changes

[ThurinTurambar]

Do you have like an alt with drk at endgame levels? Being lvl36 and demanding changes is almost comical.

Drk might need some rebalancing on lower levels to make up for loss of plunge and 2 blood wep stacks, but not what you are proposing

[HanakoTheGoth]

Do you have like an alt with drk at endgame levels? Being lvl36 and demanding changes is almost comical.

Drk might need some rebalancing on lower levels to make up for loss of plunge and 2 blood wep stacks, but not what you are proposing

dont see the issue. dark knight already squishies tank pre-70 letting blood weapon have bloodbath procs isnt really hurting anything when every other tank in the game can solo bosses and dark knight is only one who truely can't really says something. thats so op i gain few thousand hp at max level with 3 abilities its god teir busted. like you said i dont see it

if that was case. bloodbath would be broken watch it isnt

lets compare no mercy and fight or flight vs current blood weapon. not even close still worst tank job in the game 70 below people are perfectly with dark knight being trash until max level or fact leveling experence on dark is unfun to play worst of them


Lets give demostration what it like playing dark knight lower levels - you just unlock your job . buy yourself best possible tank gear even propar melds (really dont have to do this but i just here prove a point) go into first dungeon, have all your hot keys set up. you wall to wall pull and use cooldowns accordingly like you shouldnt and. well you die. you die not because your healer didnt heal you fast enough simply puyt you die cause Squire-Enix made you squishie as you possibly be before the healer even manage get one cure II of you lose 85% of your health your healer is having hard time healing you when if this was any other tank at this level they probably wouldnt suffer at much

skill issue. i think not as you level do your dark knight quests find the abilities you gain as you level very boring often ask yourself. why did i do this what is meaning of life. cause dark knight so bad at low level content find very little enjoyiment at it at all cause most abilities get 30-50 are boring as hell. no you have wait 70 hard long levels and dungeons grinds to get TBN but wait there is more. anytime you do your daily have a chance do dungeons that take anyway that TBN then just go back being terrible again. only reason dont die so quickly now is gear stat difference. still gonna die. then notice when play another job with ppl play gunbreaker paladin or warrior they can solo bosses. dark knight struggles at this cause if whole party dies. your last one standing very high chance your gonna wipe

why cause your dark knight squire-enix hates you. only time your ever good any good is at max level and in raid groups. rest of the game dark knight garbage dont care who plays it how skilled they claim to be they are garbage

[Mikey_R]

Lets give demostration what it like playing dark knight lower levels - you just unlock your job . buy yourself best possible tank gear even propar melds (really dont have to do this but i just here prove a point) go into first dungeon, have all your hot keys set up. you wall to wall pull and use cooldowns accordingly like you shouldnt and. well you die. you die not because your healer didnt heal you fast enough simply puyt you die cause Squire-Enix made you squishie as you possibly be before the healer even manage get one cure II of you lose 85% of your health your healer is having hard time healing you when if this was any other tank at this level they probably wouldnt suffer at much

If we have just unlocked DRK, let's compare it to the other tanks. At level 30, they all have Rampart and Reprisal. The only other additions are Warrior with Thrill of Battle and Gunbreaker with Camouflage. All tanks also have the same base defence and HP (Warrior does have slightly higher HP, but it isn't enough to make any difference). So, unless you want to claim Paladin, and, to a lesser extent Warrior/Gunbreaker have the same issues that DRK has at those levels, then you just clearly have an unfounded hatred for Dark Knight based on faulty assumptions.

Just to make quick commentary these. They are much more reasonable than your other topic and the only thing I do want to comment on is MO gain when using Dark Mind and Dark Missionary. Tying any offensive resource to a defensive one will invariably turn that defensive option into an offensive one, which we have seen in the past with HW Warrior. Generally, it isn't a good idea to mix the 2, even TBN has this as, even though it is damage neutral in a vacuum, when you put it in a party with raid buffs, it turns into an offensive gain.

[Carighan]

If we have just unlocked DRK, let's compare it to the other tanks. At level 30, they all have Rampart and Reprisal. The only other additions are Warrior with Thrill of Battle and Gunbreaker with Camouflage. All tanks also have the same base defence and HP (Warrior does have slightly higher HP, but it isn't enough to make any difference). So, unless you want to claim Paladin, and, to a lesser extent Warrior/Gunbreaker have the same issues that DRK has at those levels, then you just clearly have an unfounded hatred for Dark Knight based on faulty assumptions.

Don't interrupt Hanako's dreamt up narrative with facts! xD

[Mikey_R]

Don't interrupt Hanako's dreamt up narrative with facts! xD

Sorry, sorry, forgot everyone just has to agree with everything everyone says.

[ThurinTurambar]

dont see the issue. dark knight already squishies tank pre-70 letting blood weapon have bloodbath procs isnt really hurting anything when every other tank in the game can solo bosses and dark knight is only one who truely can't really says something. thats so op i gain few thousand hp at max level with 3 abilities its god teir busted. like you said i dont see it

As if soloing bosses should be an important feature (also in skilled hands, drk absolutely can solo bosses, especially when abyssal drain/cns is unlocked).

lets compare no mercy and fight or flight vs current blood weapon. not even close still worst tank job in the game 70 below people are perfectly with dark knight being trash until max level or fact leveling experence on dark is unfun to play worst of them

In overall damage at lower levels, darknight wins in aoe by a mile. In single target all the tanks are close together, drk having greatest benefit from party buffs as well. Paladin is bit behind in single target and gunbreaker is severely behind in aoe deparment.

Lets give demostration what it like playing dark knight lower levels - you just unlock your job. You wall to wall pull and use cooldowns accordingly like you shouldnt and. well you die. you die not because your healer didnt heal you fast enough simply puyt you die cause Squire-Enix made you squishie as you possibly be before the healer even manage get one cure II of you lose 85% of your health your healer is having hard time healing you when if this was any other tank at this level they probably wouldnt suffer at much

Other tanks have similar mitigation buttons at respective levels, with only odd one out being Raw Intuition that is too strong, and its lvl 56 unlock. Has it crossed your mind to not wall to wall when half the jobs dont have aoe skill yet or only the 1st step of combo?
Even further, abyssal drain at 56 is a stronger healing option than clemency and aurora.

skill issue. i think not as you level do your dark knight quests find the abilities you gain as you level very boring often ask yourself. why did i do this what is meaning of life. cause dark knight so bad at low level content find very little enjoyiment at it at all cause most abilities get 30-50 are boring as hell. no you have wait 70 hard long levels and dungeons grinds to get TBN but wait there is more. anytime you do your daily have a chance do dungeons that take anyway that TBN then just go back being terrible again. only reason dont die so quickly now is gear stat difference. still gonna die. then notice when play another job with ppl play gunbreaker paladin or warrior they can solo bosses. dark knight struggles at this cause if whole party dies. your last one standing very high chance your gonna wipe

Sounds like your skill issue indeed.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Do you have like an alt with drk at endgame levels? Being lvl36 and demanding changes is almost comical.

Drk might need some rebalancing on lower levels to make up for loss of plunge and 2 blood wep stacks, but not what you are proposing

Dark Knight needs more GCDs to make up for the fact that it's current GCD rotation is basically Level 50 Paladin which is actually hindering tank design than helping it.