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    Sounds like you're reaching to me

    Not once did i ever see asahi having romantic interest in zenos either lol
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    No hate to the OP but im pretty sure this is one of the most LGBTQ+ positive games out there right now, as far as whats in the main stream. Could be wrong though I guess since there is VR chat and second life.
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    I didn't know they'd revealed anyone's relationship interests hardly. Usually, only time they have is when they've clearly been married like Chai-Nuzz. They avoid getting into the subject so that you can use your imagination, and focus on what matters: the fight we are tackling against whatever threats we face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    No hate to the OP but im pretty sure this is one of the most LGBTQ+ positive games out there right now, as far as whats in the main stream. Could be wrong though I guess since there is VR chat and second life.
    I'd say it's a mixed bag. Players can get gay married but canon LGBT NPCs are pretty few and far between, and sometimes it feels like the explicit or more strongly implied NPCs are the butt of a joke. To be fair the MSQ in particular doesn't focus much on romantic relationships, but when it does they're almost always if not always straight.
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    If you read the notes you see that he's totally obsessed with Calyx for how brilliant he is. He admires him not loves him.
    Its fanboying obsession, not Romance.

    Sometimes, there isn't reason to be screaming accusations against a dev team.
    Not everything needs to be political or oppression against a minority group/exclusion, Otherwise we end up with Netflix Bingo and it becomes forced and disingenuous pandering.
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    Last edited by Sililos; 09-05-2025 at 12:27 PM.

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    I don't think anything says that locker belonged to Demetrius? The data pad nearby has a journal entry stating the owner had a meeting with Demetrius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    If you read the notes you see that he's totally obsessed with Calyx for how brilliant he is. He admires him not loves him.
    Its fanboying obsession, not Romance.

    Sometimes, there isn't reason to be screaming accusations against a dev team.
    Not everything needs to be political or oppression against a minority group/exclusion, Otherwise we end up with Netflix Bingo and it becomes forced and disingenuous pandering.
    Not gonna lie, If it weren't for the second paragraph I'd think you're being sincere.
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    LGBT didn't even cross my mind when opening that locker. I just figured it was some creepy obsession with Calyx and I just closed it thinking "I don't even want to know." It could of been pictures of anyone in there and my reaction would of been the same.
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    OP, I understand where you're coming from, but I truly think you're seeing romance where there is none, like, not even close.


    What you're looking at is obsession, idolatry and unhealthy attachment patterns in the case of Demetrius, Asahi, Zenos, etc.
    One could consider Zenos as having a romantic undertone if you like, it's up to personal interpretation. But the rest of them never expressed even a vaguely romantic interest in the object of their obsession, not even in the slightest.


    If you consider this to be expressions of love, I am genuinely worried for you. Please keep an eye out for red flags in IRL relationships, none of this is actually love or even attraction.


    I'd also be more worried about Demetrius being attracted to a literal dying child. There's more messed up things in there than being a creepy gay guy.


    I personally interpret Gaia and Ryne as besties, but it is perfectly understandable to see them as possibly more and I think they're the sweetest thing. If they became canon, I'd be happy for them ♥


    As for Haurchefant, dude is just generally unhinged no matter your gender. He gawks at the WoL's muscles even if you're a girl. He's even more unhinged in the japanese. Dude is simply a weirdo (affectionate) and perhaps you're reading it a certain way assuming the WoL is canonically male, or not having checked the supposed differences between his dialogue if you're male or female? There are none.
    Someone who does have differences in his dialogue depending on your character's gender is actually Thancred!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shistar View Post
    I'd also be more worried about Demetrius being attracted to a literal dying child.
    That's kinda my point. It's weird that one of the likeliest instances of queer male attraction in the MSQ is a grown man obsessed with a kid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shistar View Post
    As for Haurchefant, dude is just generally unhinged no matter your gender. He gawks at the WoL's muscles even if you're a girl. He's even more unhinged in the japanese. Dude is simply a weirdo (affectionate) and perhaps you're reading it a certain way assuming the WoL is canonically male, or not having checked the supposed differences between his dialogue if you're male or female? There are none.
    One of the reasons I brought up Haurchefant is because even if you're playing a female WOL there's still the shirtless men in his office. Also the fact he gets Vaulted after becoming less of a joke character. Aymeric and G'raha could be positive examples, but it's more ambiguous with them since they're not as forward as he is and the queer implications are easier to miss depending on your character's gender.
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