About That Locker

[StormChase]

Is it just me or does someone on the writing team not like queer people? Doesn't happen very often since there aren't many LGBT NPCs in the MSQ, but it seems like any time they reveal a male character's definitely gay or bi it's to show how creepy he is. Japanese Haurchefant makes those weird comments to the WOL, most of the awful things we see Asahi do are to impress Zenos, and now there's that joke they added with Demetrius.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Considering Ryne and Gaia exist, I don't really think that at all.

I also don't think they particularly say the characters are "definitely gay or bi" at all either- it's just written that it's plausible that they are.

[StormChase]

Considering Ryne and Gaia exist, I don't really think that at all.

I also don't think they particularly say the characters are "definitely gay or bi" at all either- it's just written that it's plausible that they are.

It's something I've noticed with the men specifically. "Definitely" might be stretching it a little but I mean there's no other good explanation for why they act that way.

[ZephyrMenodora]

It's something I've noticed with the men specifically. "Definitely" might be stretching it a little but I mean there's no other good explanation for why they act that way.

I think some villains are just written to be psychopaths, and their behavior speaks more to that than suggesting their sexuality. Some villains are just complete fanboys of the bigger villain and that's about all there is to it. I don't think either example was written as commentary on LGBT people.

[StormChase]

I think some villains are just written to be psychopaths, and their behavior speaks more to that than suggesting their sexuality. Some villains are just complete fanboys of the bigger villain and that's about all there is to it. I don't think either example was written as commentary on LGBT people.

Even if Demetrius doesn't say he's into Calyx I think it's clear what conclusion they want us to make when we find his locker. Whoever put it in probably wasn't intentionally trying to be homophobic but it's such a common trope that they might've not even noticed they were doing it.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Even if Demetrius doesn't say he's into Calyx I think it's clear what conclusion they want us to make when we find his locker. Whoever put it in probably wasn't intentionally trying to be homophobic but it's such a common trope that they might've not even noticed they were doing it.

Isn't Calyx supposed to have been very young? I forget his age but wasn't he a child prodigy? I would think we'd have more serious problems if we were supposed to reach this as romantic.

[LegendWait]

Even if Demetrius doesn't say he's into Calyx I think it's clear what conclusion they want us to make when we find his locker. Whoever put it in probably wasn't intentionally trying to be homophobic but it's such a common trope that they might've not even noticed they were doing it.

Imma go take down those baby Yoda posters before you get any funny ideas about me then...

[Halivel]

It's something I've noticed with the men specifically. "Definitely" might be stretching it a little but I mean there's no other good explanation for why they act that way.

I mean...

If we want to go that way, then:

- Alphinaud is pining over Estinien;
- Aymeric, G'raha and Erenville are pining over WoL (regardless of their gender, but that includes MxM as well as result);
- Thancred with Urianger are teased to be the fatherly duo for the last three expansions;
- The whole thing with Emet x Hythlodaeus x Azem trio, which can also be interpreted differently.

You could argue that's because they're core members of our traveling party, but still, none of them are being creepy. I also think Haurchefant was meant to be comedic more than creepy, but that's besides the point.

Then there's also a couple of a Miqo'te and Hyur from one of the seasonal events from Ul'dah, and a couple of Viera guys from DT DoL questline who very much look like potential partners, and as far as I recall both are rather cute, be it as friends or as something romantic. I'm pretty sure there're more, but these are the ones I can recall.

They write a lot of things ambiguously on purpose for freedom of interpretation, and the writing can be summarised as "there're enough hints for you to see something romantic there if you want to, but it's not loaded heavily enough for it to be impossible to be seen as friendly/familial for those who don't want to see it as anything else". Regardless of how people interpret all those instances, not every single case of representation has to be flawlessly positive, and I can recall more instances of what can be read as a positive one rather than otherwise.

[Gurgeh]

Considering Ryne and Gaia exist, I don't really think that at all.

I also don't think they particularly say the characters are "definitely gay or bi" at all either- it's just written that it's plausible that they are.

This!
This thread is just ridiculous. The game I played isn't the least sexual or romantic, save from glancing references to very shallow short lived characters like Chai-nuzz and Dalia (had to look then up) and that's probably the most famous, and It's barely romantic and only mechanically sexual, and that is how I would have preferred the game stayed, especially in today's touchy climate of polarised self obsessions (although just 5 years ago this really wasn't an issue yet). In fact, the only 'charged' relationship was Rhyn and Gaia, and maybe Aliphinaud and Estinien. Both would have been homosexual. I don't imagine for a second that Estinien was really given the evil-camp treatment. They are all still alive.
This is ridiculous.
What is wrong with people. Is it something in the water?Too much balmung, mare, and p@&n memes? This obsession with sexuality. Everything has to be a reference to sexuality or at the very least have sexuality in it. Its a game! It's actually very a-sexual and pretty unromantic throughout.
I'd never been much bothered by the all the talk of games spoiled by various agendas, but suddenly its got to me to now.
Take a cold shower, find a protest to go on, register for Reddit, and subscribe to some dating apps.
At the very least just have a frig before logging on. Get it out of your systems.
Maybe it is a mare withdrawal thing.

The men don't even have nipples the game is so asexual!
That's the first thing to deal with if we want to get out of shape about vaguely sexual matters. (Its kind of creepy, like some kind of mass eunech mutilation)

[Shistar]

The game I played isn't the least sexual or romantic, save from glancing references to very shallow short lived characters like Chai-nuzz and Dalia (had to look then up) and that's probably the most famous, and It's barely romantic and only mechanically sexual, [...] In fact, the only 'charged' relationship was Rhyn and Gaia, and maybe Aliphinaud and Estinien. Both would have been homosexual. I don't imagine for a second that Estinien was really given the evil-camp treatment.

Legitimately insane takes.

The Chais are a married couple who showcase their romantic love multiple times as you get to know them through the story.
Estinien is 32 years old and they both see each other as siblings. Alphinaud specifically says something along the lines of "the brother he never had" and looks up to him.

Can't believe I clicked on show message from a muted user for this. I should mind my business more lol